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Old 06-09-2012, 06:10 PM
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Nobody is getting furloughed from either side in the next 3 months, which is about as far out as anybody can predict anything in Aviation. So much can change in that time that any further predictions are conjecture or pure rectal extraction!
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Old 06-09-2012, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MoarAlpha
I believe there is more to it than SLI. Were both ALPA. Thanks for leaving us out to dry though.
I'm sorry, but which side wanted to drag this on to keep their version of PBS?
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Old 06-10-2012, 04:18 AM
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I don't know anybody who wants to drag this out to keep PBS. Most people I know want a good, sustainable contract. The bidding method is really immaterial.
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:31 AM
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If the list's are not merged, the furloughs will come on the side with the aircraft loss. Period.
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Old 06-10-2012, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MR JT8D
If the list's are not merged, the furloughs will come on the side with the aircraft loss. Period.
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Old 06-10-2012, 07:32 AM
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This whole thing is turning into such a total crap show. I talk to pilots from both sides of the company and all I hear is "these guys are a bunch of babies" "these guys are dragging their feet" "have you ever talked to those guys? They're a bunch of chest thumpers or greedy bastards". Honestly though, when ever I ask someone have YOU ever actually interacted with someone from the other side of the group they say no. It's always, I heard it from this other guy in reccurrent who heard it from a flight attendant and so on.

We are all pilots with the same license flying the same passengers in the same sky. We all deserve the same no matter what company you work for. Honestly it appalls me how incredibly immature our union has been through all of this. If there is anyone that deserves a finger pointing it's the union. I have personally interacted with individuals that deal with contract negotiations and I don't even feel confident in their ability to fly an airplane never mind determine the fate of the worlds largest regional carrier.
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Old 06-10-2012, 08:02 AM
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Reading this garbage reminds me of a faint memory of 3rd grade. Two kids arguing over who's backpack is cooler.

Grow the F up. Get over it. Ohhh but you didn't buy us, But... but I swear we did, Hey guys on the ERJ side Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT vote for anything, F those guys that fly a different airplane for the same company.

I feel embarrassed to say I work for this company after reading this s h i t.
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Old 06-10-2012, 11:16 AM
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Reading this garbage reminds me of a faint memory of 3rd grade. Two kids arguing over who's backpack is cooler.

Grow the F up. Get over it. Ohhh but you didn't buy us, But... but I swear we did, Hey guys on the ERJ side Do NOT, I repeat, DO NOT vote for anything, F those guys that fly a different airplane for the same company.

I feel embarrassed to say I work for this company after reading this s h i t.
Then leave. There's the door, since you're the epitome of maturity why don't you move on to a more "mature" environment in aviation (notice the irony in that sentence).

Here's what's going on though as I type this, our guys on ERJ are starting to realize why everyone is in a hurry to close this deal, and it doesn't bode well for us; so we'll just slow down for a bit and wait. If the Delta TA goes through, don't expect a TA to pass on our side unless there are significant job protections and QOL improvements. Not in a hurry, we have a good contract on the ERJ side. As far as I'm concerned we can just keep operating separately permanently!
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:23 PM
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Then leave. There's the door, since you're the epitome of maturity why don't you move on to a more "mature" environment in aviation (notice the irony in that sentence).

Here's what's going on though as I type this, our guys on ERJ are starting to realize why everyone is in a hurry to close this deal, and it doesn't bode well for us; so we'll just slow down for a bit and wait. If the Delta TA goes through, don't expect a TA to pass on our side unless there are significant job protections and QOL improvements. Not in a hurry, we have a good contract on the ERJ side. As far as I'm concerned we can just keep operating separately permanently!
Like all regionals, there are up's and down's. It's important to remember that when things are going well don't be so ignorant to think that you will never see hard times again.
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Old 06-10-2012, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by goaround2000
Then leave. There's the door, since you're the epitome of maturity why don't you move on to a more "mature" environment in aviation (notice the irony in that sentence).

Here's what's going on though as I type this, our guys on ERJ are starting to realize why everyone is in a hurry to close this deal, and it doesn't bode well for us; so we'll just slow down for a bit and wait. If the Delta TA goes through, don't expect a TA to pass on our side unless there are significant job protections and QOL improvements. Not in a hurry, we have a good contract on the ERJ side. As far as I'm concerned we can just keep operating separately permanently!
Like all regionals, there are up's and down's. It's important to remember that when things are going well don't be so ignorant to think that you will never see hard times again.
No one is denying that, but the difference between some of us and the rest of you generation entitlement is that I don't expect other pilot groups to pay for my misfortunes. If the roles were reversed I would not expect the crj guys to pay for it if they can help it.

So the reality still stands, we'll know the results of the Delta TA, and vote accordingly, but if you think I'm going to turn my back on my brothers to save another pilot group, you're delusional!
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