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Old 10-30-2012, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherPLT
It would be nice if SH would press the button on the computer and e-mail out today's prelims.
There probably isnt a "todays prelim". I asked her after the first one how many she was going to do and she said the last bid was a rare case because it was shortened and that she was only contractually obligated to put out one. I was surpised to see the one yesterday but im not expecting any more.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DontRelaxScope
I will also add that I feel many of you think our contract is worse than it truly is. Before you say our current contracts we are operating under are not similar, please actually understand what ours has. I personally don't have the time to look at yours and that is why I stated, "as I understand".
Read them side by side if you get a chance sometime. Not just the work rules, but 401K, other contributions, and sick time, etc. Then get back.

I'm not saying the CRJ CBA is bad, but read them side by side and a few more things may make sense.

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It was very clear that worst case scenario life would remain the same or better. (lets not talk about inflation etc. I understand how that works).
What was the measuring stick for "same"? If it's the "same" as the CRJ CBA, that's a concession. That's just plain and simple fact. Like I said, read the ERJ CBA and you'll understand. Many of the differences between the two CBA's have been covered in multiple other threads.

Along those lines, what's the measuring stick for "better"?

Let me give you an example. ERJ airport standby is 4 hours, CRJ is 8. If the JCBA has airport standby at 6 hours, well that's "better" for the CRJ side, but is it better than the ERJ side?

See what I'm getting at?
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:00 AM
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Let me give you an example. ERJ airport standby is 4 hours, CRJ is 8. If the JCBA has airport standby at 6 hours, well that's "better" for the CRJ side, but is it better than the ERJ side?

See what I'm getting at?
What about if you get paid for the six and more guys actually volunteer for airport reserve? Is it better or worse?
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SiShane
Yeah the wait is killing me but I want Dallas and it looks like a good chance.
You'll get it! DFW will be the most junior FO base!
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Old 10-31-2012, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Redundant Guy
What about if you get paid for the six and more guys actually volunteer for airport reserve? Is it better or worse?
They'll just do they do now, make sure you don't break the 75 hr min making it a wash. While having to sit the 6 hours for the guys that USED to only sit for 4.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by DontRelaxScope
I will also add that I feel many of you think our contract is worse than it truly is. Before you say our current contracts we are operating under are not similar, please actually understand what ours has. I personally don't have the time to look at yours and that is why I stated, "as I understand".
In other words:"Quit picking on our contract! It isn't as bad as you think! Just read it, but I don't have time to read L-XJTs"

Seriously, read and educate yourself on both. I have, and while L-ASA doesn't have a horrible contract there is room for improvement.
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Vertisch
There probably isnt a "todays prelim". I asked her after the first one how many she was going to do and she said the last bid was a rare case because it was shortened and that she was only contractually obligated to put out one. I was surpised to see the one yesterday but im not expecting any more.
LAWL... Another preliminary just came out.
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by MoarAlpha
LAWL... Another preliminary just came out.
Honest question. Why are you guys still waiting on a schedule when tomorrow is the first day of November?
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BelowMins
Honest question. Why are you guys still waiting on a schedule when tomorrow is the first day of November?
the prelims are for a vacancy bid for the DFW flying as well as a -200 displacement and -700 vacancy. But in fairness there was one month earlier this year where the ATL 200 reserves received their final schedules on the 31st of the month.
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
Good luck. Hope you get it. How is training going?
Good so far, things are starting to click and flows are becoming more natural. Systems/limitation test is tomorrow so back to studying I go!
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