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Old 10-29-2012, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PizzaBoy
You realize that concession would cost the average ERJ CA about $20K and FO about $10K a year? Yes that's a REAL concession. How is that unclear? You guys should want better, not the lowest common denominator.
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:15 PM
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35 isn't what I would exactly call a great number. Regardless of number, I doubt any of it is worth gloating over.
I was talking about future growth from United, American, and probably even Delta 700/900 flying. Obviously L-XJT guys won't upgrade into the current vacancies
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Old 10-29-2012, 01:21 PM
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I was talking about future growth from United, American, and probably even Delta 700/900 flying. Obviously L-XJT guys won't upgrade into the current vacancies
There might be more 70 or 90 seaters, but you guys will lose 50 seat flying as well. L-ASA will be shrinking as well......

And don't worry, I'll upgrade in the next class. One huge difference between L-ASA and XJT is our guys want more than flying a CRJ 700 until we retire.... We may not grow, but we will have a lot more attrition than your side, but thanks for trying to make us XJT guys feel like crap about our shrinking company.....

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Old 10-29-2012, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
There might be more 70 or 90 seaters, but you guys will lose 50 seat flying as well. L-ASA will be shrinking as well......
Last time I checked we've grown since the ATRs. Just because we take off Delta paint doesn't mean it's heading to the desert.
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:02 PM
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Ok my bad (at least I can admit it). In my defense I've got no power courtesy of Sandy so I'm getting punchy. More like $6K and $2K, but STILL cash out of my pocket aka a concession!

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Old 10-30-2012, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by PizzaBoy
Ok my bad (at least I can admit it). In my defense I've got no power courtesy of Sandy so I'm getting punchy. More like $6K and $2K, but STILL cash out of my pocket aka a concession!

Ain't nobody got time for that!
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by PizzaBoy
Ok my bad (at least I can admit it). In my defense I've got no power courtesy of Sandy so I'm getting punchy. More like $6K and $2K, but STILL cash out of my pocket aka a concession!



You just need to run along and go play with your toys. Come back when you're done posting like a "punchy" child.

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Old 10-30-2012, 07:47 AM
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You just need to run along and go play with your toys. Come back when you're done posting like a "punchy" child.
JustAnotherPLT, I hope you represent the views of a small minority of ASA pilots. If not we're all screwed no matter what side you're on. Try to be a little less divisive will you? Do you think that you're part of the problem or solution? You calling someone a child is pretty ironic. You come on here and gloat about the demise of PILOTS. Pilots who you will work side by side with someday.

You're a regional FO do you think you earn a wage that accurately reflects the education, training, and responsibility that you have?
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BelowMins
JustAnotherPLT, I hope you represent the views of a small minority of ASA pilots. If not we're all screwed no matter what side you're on. Try to be a little less divisive will you? Do you think that you're part of the problem or solution? You calling someone a child is pretty ironic. You come on here and gloat about the demise of PILOTS. Pilots who you will work side by side with someday.

You're a regional FO do you think you earn a wage that accurately reflects the education, training, and responsibility that you have?
What responsibility? The Captain gets paid much more than me to take on that responsibility. My duties are to assist him, and I do whatever he says unless it will get me killed, violated or fired. And by him I also me she/her too.

I earn a wage that reflects the current market environment. What I think I should earn is irrelevant. If it was up to me I'd pay myself at least 500k a year with 12 weeks vacation.
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Old 10-30-2012, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BelowMins
JustAnotherPLT, I hope you represent the views of a small minority of ASA pilots.
To be honest, I feel I represent some, not all, views of the ASA side. We would like to move on with this contract but it seems we've hit a bump in the road, LXJT. The conversations I have with people I fly with seem to drum up the same conclusion, LXJT is being difficult. This isn't a personal attack, it's a business attack. You feel strongly about, well, whatever it is you feel strongly about. Work rules, the state of the industry, etc. I would say some on our side feel a little different.


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If not we're all screwed no matter what side you're on. Try to be a little less divisive will you?
I don't see why I have to be less divisive. My comment above is humorous. PizzaPilot posted out of strong emotions and published erroneous numerical data, only to confess later. Am I not allowed to post a funny picture? I will not apologize that you've taken offense.

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Do you think that you're part of the problem or solution?
I believe my views would be apart of the solution.

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You calling someone a child is pretty ironic.
Humorous

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You're a regional FO do you think you earn a wage that accurately reflects the education, training, and responsibility that you have?
Lets not open a pandora box of endless arguments. The debate about quality and cost of higher education in the country has no foreseeable end insight. Do you believe a doctor, lawyer, or trash man receive adequate compensation? The complexities of our industry and competitiveness of others drive our wages. We are where we can sustain a business.
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