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Old 12-16-2015, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
Hopefully no where we will end up with the crying he or she always does. Always doom and gloom, then (s)he wonders why there is no movement here.
I made a lateral move to another regional.

The "doom and gloom" isn't just me. Look around next time you're at work. Who is super stoked to be at EXPRESSJET? At some point you gotta pull the cord and reboot your career. Sucks I waited so many years before pulling my head out of the delusion that infects most 20-30's year old pilots at ASA who haven't seen the writing on the wall. Sure everyone has their own reasons for staying and for some it makes sense. But in my case I don't have "friends in high places" to help progress my career. So it was a matter of overcoming the fear of giving up something I knew and had gotten "comfortable" in. Throwing away my seniority and QOL goes against everything were taught but I believe I'm in a better place now. A place where my career will flourish and I can re-invigorate my mind by going through intensive training again.


Wish my former colleagues at surejet the best in the future, but I'm not holding my breath that good things will come your way.

TL;DR: I'm glad I quit, went to another regional, and I look forward to all your hate mail!
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Old 12-16-2015, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AceyCandler
I made a lateral move to another regional.

The "doom and gloom" isn't just me. Look around next time you're at work. Who is super stoked to be at EXPRESSJET? At some point you gotta pull the cord and reboot your career. Sucks I waited so many years before pulling my head out of the delusion that infects most 20-30's year old pilots at ASA who haven't seen the writing on the wall. Sure everyone has their own reasons for staying and for some it makes sense. But in my case I don't have "friends in high places" to help progress my career. So it was a matter of overcoming the fear of giving up something I knew and had gotten "comfortable" in. Throwing away my seniority and QOL goes against everything were taught but I believe I'm in a better place now. A place where my career will flourish and I can re-invigorate my mind by going through intensive training again.


Wish my former colleagues at surejet the best in the future, but I'm not holding my breath that good things will come your way.

TL;DR: I'm glad I quit, went to another regional, and I look forward to all your hate mail!
Congrats on your new job!

IMO sounds like you might need some couch time too. TA TA

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Old 12-16-2015, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AceyCandler
I made a lateral move to another regional.

The "doom and gloom" isn't just me. Look around next time you're at work. Who is super stoked to be at EXPRESSJET? At some point you gotta pull the cord and reboot your career. Sucks I waited so many years before pulling my head out of the delusion that infects most 20-30's year old pilots at ASA who haven't seen the writing on the wall. Sure everyone has their own reasons for staying and for some it makes sense. But in my case I don't have "friends in high places" to help progress my career. So it was a matter of overcoming the fear of giving up something I knew and had gotten "comfortable" in. Throwing away my seniority and QOL goes against everything were taught but I believe I'm in a better place now. A place where my career will flourish and I can re-invigorate my mind by going through intensive training again.


Wish my former colleagues at surejet the best in the future, but I'm not holding my breath that good things will come your way.

TL;DR: I'm glad I quit, went to another regional, and I look forward to all your hate mail!
enjoy the dash....with one airplane coming on property a month I'm sure your career will "flourish"
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Old 12-16-2015, 06:19 PM
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I thought we were supposed to hear something from ALPA today. Did I miss it?
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Old 12-16-2015, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
I thought we were supposed to hear something from ALPA today. Did I miss it?
Nope. Nothing happened. No proposal.
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Old 12-16-2015, 06:50 PM
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The meeting happened today. The MEC met with Terry, Chip, and some other members of management. They'll go over the proposal and then send it to the pilots for a vote if they deem it worthy. No timetable for when they'll give the pilots notice.
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Old 12-17-2015, 05:48 AM
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If there's no plan for the future, its a no vote for me! Smoke and mirrors willn't cut it, it has to be in black and white(PERIOD)
If there are no plans for the future than why vote no? If there are no plans for the future and we vote no things will be the same (more shrinking and same pay) but if we vote yes we get at least something a little better until the end.
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Old 12-17-2015, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Flies4Food116
If there are no plans for the future than why vote no? If there are no plans for the future and we vote no things will be the same (more shrinking and same pay) but if we vote yes we get at least something a little better until the end.
You could look at a no vote as getting it over with faster allowing everybody to finally realize it is over. 😁
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Old 12-17-2015, 07:43 AM
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I don't think you guys really understand what 'close up shop' really means. It means 4000 pilots are unemployed and starting over. Are you REALLY prepared for that? If so, why are you still here complaining? This place has provided a great deal of opportunity for many, as well as a good living for others. Is it as good as it can be? No. Is it as bad as it can be? No. Work to make it better or move on, but please, enough with the idiotic dissension and emotional, reactionary diatribes.
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Old 12-17-2015, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AtlCSIP
I don't think you guys really understand what 'close up shop' really means. It means 4000 pilots are unemployed and starting over. Are you REALLY prepared for that? If so, why are you still here complaining? This place has provided a great deal of opportunity for many, as well as a good living for others. Is it as good as it can be? No. Is it as bad as it can be? No. Work to make it better or move on, but please, enough with the idiotic dissension and emotional, reactionary diatribes.
It means a lot more than just 4000 pilots. There are other employees here too. I am prepared, are you? If I wasn't I would have bailed a long time ago. Management needs a plan to attract new hires other than artificially driving the upgrade time down and a higher first year rate. I like this place and I like the people I fly with but it doesn't change the fact that we are shrinking with no game plan. I am interested to see what comes out of the talks this week with the company.
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