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Old 09-01-2020, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jtsastre
Such a silly thing to say.
Actually, it’s spot on if you have a scintilla of understanding of pattern bargaining. Union carriers keep non union carriers working conditions tolerable. You’re welcome.
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Old 09-01-2020, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ciceda
I think most pilots don't blame someone for selling out their soul to SkyWest to avoid a lengthy commute. It is those East coast flight school noobs who want to go to SkyWest cause they got a free lanyard and they believe the hype.

Allow me to take that a step farther. Most people don’t consider a regional airline a career move to begin with but rather a means to an end. If option A offers you an easier life, quicker upgrade etc in order to get to the end state goal, you take it. Sure, our regional airlines get discussed from time to time in the cockpit when reminiscing (and laughing about the good times), but I’ve never thought less of the guy sitting next to me because the airline they hired on with after college was considered a “scum bucket” carrier (hell, many people wear that as a badge of honor now). That being said, I’m damn proud (and was lucky) to have worked for COEX in my early 20’s. Upgraded at 23 on the 120 and two years later found myself in the ERJ left seat flying all over the map (as long as your map is folded such as to only reveal Mexico and the eastern half of the U.S.). Good people during the late 90’s early 2000’s that I’ll never forget (probably because I find myself flying with them to this day in larger cockpits). All the best to you fine folks. You were the good guys/gals
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Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest
Allow me to take that a step farther. Most people don’t consider a regional airline a career move to begin with but rather a means to an end. If option A offers you an easier life, quicker upgrade etc in order to get to the end state goal, you take it. Sure, our regional airlines get discussed from time to time in the cockpit when reminiscing (and laughing about the good times), but I’ve never thought less of the guy sitting next to me because the airline they hired on with after college was considered a “scum bucket” carrier (hell, many people wear that as a badge of honor now). That being said, I’m damn proud (and was lucky) to have worked for COEX in my early 20’s. Upgraded at 23 on the 120 and two years later found myself in the ERJ left seat flying all over the map (as long as your map is folded such as to only reveal Mexico and the eastern half of the U.S.). Good people during the late 90’s early 2000’s that I’ll never forget (probably because I find myself flying with them to this day in larger cockpits). All the best to you fine folks. You were the good guys/gals
excellent post. They’re all the same, as far as being a means to an end.
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
excellent post. They’re all the same, as far as being a means to an end.
Not really, it was horrible advice. It is a very lazy and altruistic advice to give from those who have "moved on" to give to those just starting out (and so tone deaf as to give in a thread full of pilots about to be out of a job).

if you have a choice, you need to be picky on what Regional to choose to work at. They are not all the same and what many people just found out in the last 6 months is that if you choose wrongly, you could see yourself out on the street. Also, those still lucky enough to have a Regional job right now will be stuck where they are at for a few more years then originally planned.

Choose your Regional like you could be stuck there for life, but still try hard to move on. That is the best advice one can give.
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Old 09-02-2020, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by greatmovieistar
Not really, it was horrible advice. It is a very lazy and altruistic advice to give from those who have "moved on" to give to those just starting out (and so tone deaf as to give in a thread full of pilots about to be out of a job).

if you have a choice, you need to be picky on what Regional to choose to work at. They are not all the same and what many people just found out in the last 6 months is that if you choose wrongly, you could see yourself out on the street. Also, those still lucky enough to have a Regional job right now will be stuck where they are at for a few more years then originally planned.

Choose your Regional like you could be stuck there for life, but still try hard to move on. That is the best advice one can give.
You’re both right based on your own personal level of risk tolerance. There’s no one size fits all approach to this job.

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Old 09-02-2020, 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by greatmovieistar

if you have a choice, you need to be picky on what Regional to choose to work at.
Yep. Get The one you can get whatever you need out of it quickly and move on. Because preferential interviews, flow, even the continued existence of the major CBA and the major itself is all written in smoke.
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Yep. Get The one you can get whatever you need out of it quickly and move on. Because preferential interviews, flow, even the continued existence of the major CBA and the major itself is all written in smoke.
not to mention......things change. The “place to be” when I was trying to start at a regional was Comair, then Air Wisconsin, and then possibly ExpressJet. Time has a way of changing things.
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Old 09-06-2020, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyBekkestad
So out of 5400 pilots, are we talking about 10?
In my years at Skywest I have never met a single pilot who believes they are better than others.
I’ve only ever met 1 Skywest pilot with a “better than you” attitude, but I’ve met dozens and dozens with an “I’m the coolest and these sunglasses and hat are going on instagram” attitude.
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Originally Posted by IAFDOF
I’ve met dozens and dozens with an “I’m the coolest and these sunglasses and hat are going on instagram” attitude.

I think that’s about 50% of all pilots under the age of 30..
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Well after all these tools are forced to recite out loud some type of self-gratifying oath or passage on day one of their brainwashing... err I mean indoctrination.
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