Envoy
07-05-2018, 12:06 PM
#8981
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: E-175 CA
Posts: 339
Doesn't scope prevent Envoy from ever flying the C-series as an AA-owned regional?
edit: I got to check out the C-series FTV-2 when they were doing steep approaches for certification. It is a really cool airplane and far more capable than anything Embraer has ever conceived of.
edit: I got to check out the C-series FTV-2 when they were doing steep approaches for certification. It is a really cool airplane and far more capable than anything Embraer has ever conceived of.
07-07-2018, 08:40 AM
#8988
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Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 226
07-07-2018, 10:20 AM
#8989
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Joined APC: Jul 2016
Position: FO
Posts: 793
Envoy
Need answer to a question asked by someone. I can’t find the answer. Question is about Captain Rate of Pay upon bid award & First Officer Option!??? What is this “First Officer Option”????
Reference: our recent LOA titled STANDING VACANCY FOR UPGRADE.... its on page 4 of that document.
The section is titled CAPTAIN RATE OF PAY UPON BID AWARD: “If any such awarded pilot elects to invoke the First Office Option Pursuant to 15.J of the Basic Agreement, then his pay will revert to First Officer pay on the date such option is elected.”
I looked at our contract section 15.J that was referenced and it says this:
Section 15: J. TRAINING FREEZE 1. A pilot who voluntarily bids for and is awarded a permanent vacancy that requires upgraded training or training on a different equipment type will be subject to a fourteen (14) month training freeze, except that: a. All turbojet Captains will be subject to a training freeze of twenty-four (24) months.
Nothing in Section 15.J referenced above talks about a “First Officer Option”... What is this First Officer Option, that is confusing to me.
Are they saying not to Preference Bid ( 3P), to only have a Displacement Preference (3D), if you want “ CA Pay Upon Bid Award” ???
Reference: our recent LOA titled STANDING VACANCY FOR UPGRADE.... its on page 4 of that document.
The section is titled CAPTAIN RATE OF PAY UPON BID AWARD: “If any such awarded pilot elects to invoke the First Office Option Pursuant to 15.J of the Basic Agreement, then his pay will revert to First Officer pay on the date such option is elected.”
I looked at our contract section 15.J that was referenced and it says this:
Section 15: J. TRAINING FREEZE 1. A pilot who voluntarily bids for and is awarded a permanent vacancy that requires upgraded training or training on a different equipment type will be subject to a fourteen (14) month training freeze, except that: a. All turbojet Captains will be subject to a training freeze of twenty-four (24) months.
Nothing in Section 15.J referenced above talks about a “First Officer Option”... What is this First Officer Option, that is confusing to me.
Are they saying not to Preference Bid ( 3P), to only have a Displacement Preference (3D), if you want “ CA Pay Upon Bid Award” ???
Last edited by SilentLurker; 07-07-2018 at 10:37 AM.
07-07-2018, 10:35 AM
#8990
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 188
Need answer to a question asked by someone. I can’t find the answer. Question is about Captain Rate of Pay upon bid award & First Officer Option!??? What is this “First Officer Option”????
Reference: our recent LOA titled STANDING VACANCY FOR UPGRADE.... its on page 4 of that document.
The section is titled CAPTAIN RATE OF PAY UPON BID AWARD: “If any such awarded pilot elects to invoke the First Office Option Pursuant to 15.J of the Basic Agreement, then his pay will revert to First Officer pay on the date such option is elected.”
I looked at our contract section 15.J that was referenced and it says this:
Section 15: J. TRAINING FREEZE 1. A pilot who voluntarily bids for and is awarded a permanent vacancy that requires upgraded training or training on a different equipment type will be subject to a fourteen (14) month training freeze, except that: a. All turbojet Captains will be subject to a training freeze of twenty-four (24) months. b. All new hire pilots will be subject to a training freeze of twelve (12) months.
Nothing in Section 15.J referenced above talks about a “First Officer Option”... What is this First Officer Option, that is confusing to me.
Are they saying not to Preference Bid, to only have a Displacement Preference in, if you want “ CA Pay Upon Bid Award” ???
Reference: our recent LOA titled STANDING VACANCY FOR UPGRADE.... its on page 4 of that document.
The section is titled CAPTAIN RATE OF PAY UPON BID AWARD: “If any such awarded pilot elects to invoke the First Office Option Pursuant to 15.J of the Basic Agreement, then his pay will revert to First Officer pay on the date such option is elected.”
I looked at our contract section 15.J that was referenced and it says this:
Section 15: J. TRAINING FREEZE 1. A pilot who voluntarily bids for and is awarded a permanent vacancy that requires upgraded training or training on a different equipment type will be subject to a fourteen (14) month training freeze, except that: a. All turbojet Captains will be subject to a training freeze of twenty-four (24) months. b. All new hire pilots will be subject to a training freeze of twelve (12) months.
Nothing in Section 15.J referenced above talks about a “First Officer Option”... What is this First Officer Option, that is confusing to me.
Are they saying not to Preference Bid, to only have a Displacement Preference in, if you want “ CA Pay Upon Bid Award” ???
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