Originally Posted by havick206

I think it’s more a case of schedulers going with the path of least resistance than an overhead directive.

Personally I think all the partial RF messages are getting ignored until after they’ve gone through all the FO reserve list and then sending out denial messages or awarding the scraps left over if there happens to be an RF sitting there that foots the bill.

This is confirmed by the response I got which was that it’s up to us to do all the research and ensure it wasn’t awarded properly etc

QuickTrade hasn’t helped the situation as they probably get a million RF messages to sift through and action given the ease of doing it now with the app. It’s no excuse but it makes sense as to why things are happening he way they are. I’m by no means knocking QuickTrade, love the app, it’s probably overloaded the man-draulic process at the other end.

Originally Posted by Pedro4President

It's definitely a proactive approach to getting people consolidated. Who came up with or endorsed it is beyond me. I think it is just as likely to be a CS initiative or a management directive. I definitely think they are realizing this is soon going to be an issue.

The growth we saw last year wasn't the healthiest way to grow. A third of our pilot group has been on property less than a year. Consolidation is an unexpected issue that has just started to happen. I don't think anyone thought hey would have trouble getting pilots consolidated.

100 plus pilots need consolidation in ORD alone!

Originally Posted by AZPilotMike

Free money and time off. What’s the problem? I guess if you really wanted those extra hours it would be an issue.

Perhaps I’m missing something?

Originally Posted by bourbon scamp

Just got my first line in March and already the 1st sequence has been altered. I’ve lost the first 2 days of flying. It’s showing up in OT. Is that what you’re describing above?

Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA

For my ORD crew, when you park by L2C -> L10B is that called the Lima alley or Kilo alley. I’ve asked other CAs before and they don’t know either.

Originally Posted by AZPilotMike

Always call it Kilo and it hasn’t caused an issue yet.

Originally Posted by Seaplane

That sounds like a transition legality that you had, so they removed that part of flying and assign it to open time. You are paid for that. Should be coded as TL in your hi2. They won’t just cut up your line and piece it out once you are awarded it via the bid. I was referring to open time trips that were assigned to open time because they went unfilled, person had vacation scheduled for that 4 day trip, started training, or called in sick (mostly applies to later in the month).

Originally Posted by bourbon scamp

Gotcha thx

Originally Posted by Pedro4President

It's definitely a proactive approach to getting people consolidated. Who came up with or endorsed it is beyond me. I think it is just as likely to be a CS initiative or a management directive. I definitely think they are realizing this is soon going to be an issue.



The growth we saw last year wasn't the healthiest way to grow. A third of our pilot group has been on property less than a year. Consolidation is an unexpected issue that has just started to happen. I don't think anyone thought hey would have trouble getting pilots consolidated.



100 plus pilots need consolidation in ORD alone!

Originally Posted by Seaplane

Transponder on ATC/ALT. Tell metering you’re lost. Then when they tell you where you are, you’ll know. Or say Lima north/south line