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02-16-2018, 10:37 AM
#7191
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 31
Yeah the sequences are usually locked when they first appear in OT, then they’re given to someone needing consolidation. So in reality there’s almost zero chance of picking up OT except for during the 48 hour manual window or by calling the next day desk if you see something still in OT that wasn’t awarded to reserve pilots after they finished awarding flying for the following day.
Plus if you send an RF to do a partial pickup before 0400, lately I’ve been seeing swaps and drops sitting on it rather than action it by the next day like they’re supposed. I guess in the hope someone else picks it up as a full trip so they don’t have to break it up or it gets assigned in advance to a reserve pilot that needs consolidation.
Plus if you send an RF to do a partial pickup before 0400, lately I’ve been seeing swaps and drops sitting on it rather than action it by the next day like they’re supposed. I guess in the hope someone else picks it up as a full trip so they don’t have to break it up or it gets assigned in advance to a reserve pilot that needs consolidation.
02-16-2018, 10:42 AM
#7192
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 135
And they obviously can’t forecast flying 1 month away, so who knows if there will be a substantial increase in flying. Then that means they won’t consolidate again. Plus, they are still hiring 60 per month. I think there will be an extreme overstaffig situation in the near future. ORD FOs have ~100+ reserves, LGA isn’t far behind, DFW is the best place for a reserve to get a chance to fly, MIA has barely any flying/OT. The next 6months will be interesting to say the least.
02-16-2018, 10:45 AM
#7193
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 135
Grieve it??? That doesn’t do anything. You still lose the flying then you have to prove you put in and they gave it to someone less senior on reserve just to maybe get paid. Pain in the a** for you the pilot and they know it. Whole point of picking up OT is to get it, then fly it. Combing to a conclusion months later is a joke and defeats the purpose.
02-16-2018, 11:27 AM
#7194
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
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I only noticed this month that it’s been blatantly happening.
02-16-2018, 11:34 AM
#7195
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Joined APC: Sep 2013
Posts: 31
Grieve it??? That doesn’t do anything. You still lose the flying then you have to prove you put in and they gave it to someone less senior on reserve just to maybe get paid. Pain in the a** for you the pilot and they know it. Whole point of picking up OT is to get it, then fly it. Combing to a conclusion months later is a joke and defeats the purpose.
02-16-2018, 11:37 AM
#7196
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 135
The whole point of picking up OT is to get paid for it. If you don’t grieve this than why bother grieving anything. About a year ago I put a partial request in. They didn’t award it to me the next day and gave it to a junior guy the day after. Called them out and they claimed they never got RF email. Grieved it, showed proof (took about 5 min) and was awarded the pay the very next month.
02-16-2018, 11:41 AM
#7197
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
Same same for the denial HI6 messages that comes days after they should. Then take a screen shot of the date and time and who the actual sequence was awarded to.
I’ll probably have about 6-7 decent cases for grievance by the end of next month now that I’m keeping track of it properly.
I have problems with the fact that they are awarding trips to reserve guys for consolidation, or full trips disappearing in the 0400-10am next day window. What irks me is that they sit on your partial RF request for days and then subsequently award it to someone needing consolidation, or someone else then picks up the full trip when they should have already broken up the trip by that point.
02-16-2018, 12:10 PM
#7198
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Joined APC: Jun 2017
Posts: 135
Screen shot and email it to yourself or if using QuickTrade then it sends you a sent receipt for all the RF messages.
Same same for the denial HI6 messages that comes days after they should. Then take a screen shot of the date and time and who the actual sequence was awarded to.
I’ll probably have about 6-7 decent cases for grievance by the end of next month now that I’m keeping track of it properly.
I have problems with the fact that they are awarding trips to reserve guys for consolidation, or full trips disappearing in the 0400-10am next day window. What irks me is that they sit on your partial RF request for days and then subsequently award it to someone needing consolidation, or someone else then picks up the full trip when they should have already broken up the trip by that point.
Same same for the denial HI6 messages that comes days after they should. Then take a screen shot of the date and time and who the actual sequence was awarded to.
I’ll probably have about 6-7 decent cases for grievance by the end of next month now that I’m keeping track of it properly.
I have problems with the fact that they are awarding trips to reserve guys for consolidation, or full trips disappearing in the 0400-10am next day window. What irks me is that they sit on your partial RF request for days and then subsequently award it to someone needing consolidation, or someone else then picks up the full trip when they should have already broken up the trip by that point.
02-16-2018, 12:15 PM
#7199
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,729
I also know that some trips aren't even appearing on the OT board at all, they're bypassing that and awarding trips to reserve pilots well in advance without even giving a line holder an opportunity to pick it up should they wish to.
02-16-2018, 12:54 PM
#7200
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
Yes it's legal once the reserve pilot is within 30 days of end of consolidation.
Last edited by Pedro4President; 02-16-2018 at 01:06 PM.
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