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Old 01-30-2018, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptJackSparrow
Listen, we have all sat reserve at some point (for the most part). Some of us for 3+ years without wonderful bonuses/pay and commuter hotels and all the other benefits available to new hires now. While the reserve system does in fact need an overhaul/improvement, the forefront of our concerns should be pay.

Reserve is temporary. At some point our reserve pilots will become line holders. That is a fact. And given AA hiring forecasts from here on out (hard to tell to the extent of metering), reserve time should not be long for either seats... Unless you were one of those high value aviators who will be at the bottom for quite awhile... I don't feel bad for those guys. They came here knowing what to expect and if they read anything on here they were given a more than fair warning.
There are things that can absolutely be improved. Pre-assigned RAP-1, airport standby etc. We can do this better. Why can't there be another window after ATTOT that allows reserve pilots to snag open time rather than waiting for a call? I don't want to upgrade right away strictly because of our reserve system, that is why I am doing everything I can not to fly.
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Old 01-30-2018, 01:32 PM
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Wonder if AA will go for this. Skywest has a few on order for Delta Connection.


https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...175-sc-441489/
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Old 01-30-2018, 01:36 PM
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Just remember, there are some pilots that sat reserve 4+ years as FOs, finally upgraded, and will now sit reserve for the foreseeable future.

It is true that the contract in the whole is woefully inadequate. Lot's of improvements are needed. Pay. Schedules. Trip/duty rigs and 5:15 pay minimum per calendar day. Restored vacation. And the flow needs to be honored.

In the meantime, keep updating your applications and try to obtain better employment.
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Old 01-30-2018, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 3EngineTaxi
Just remember, there are some pilots that sat reserve 4+ years as FOs, finally upgraded, and will now sit reserve for the foreseeable future.

It is true that the contract in the whole is woefully inadequate. Lot's of improvements are needed. Pay. Schedules. Trip/duty rigs and 5:15 pay minimum per calendar day. Restored vacation. And the flow needs to be honored.

In the meantime, keep updating your applications and try to obtain better employment.
Just to qoute from the other forum...

Originally Posted by WMUFlyboy1
Endeavor FO/CA
2-3 year pay. 7 months FO, 5 months CA

$106k gross including 4.7k per diem

Averaged probably 120 hours credit a month but only 45 block.
This shows how broke our reserve system and pilot contract truly is...

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Old 01-30-2018, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Why can't there be another window after ATTOT that allows reserve pilots to snag open time rather than waiting for a call?
I agree.

I tried nearly ten times to pick up OT last month and I was unsuccessful every time.

On reserve days there was either nothing open to proffer for or I was too junior to get it. On the other hand, I was senior enough to not be called.

The reserve system could definitely be improved. Even if pilots are not expected to sit on reserve for long before holding a line, reserve is an important issue for prospective hires.
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Old 01-31-2018, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ordflyer8794
Wonder if AA will go for this. Skywest has a few on order for Delta Connection.


https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...175-sc-441489/
Spoke to a buddy from skywest yesterday. He said a DFW base was in the works.

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Old 01-31-2018, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA
Spoke to a buddy from skywest yesterday. He said a DFW base was in the works.

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They've been talking about that over there for about a year now. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
They've been talking about that over there for about a year now. I'll believe it when I see it.
More Likely DAL that DFW. Heard during a pitch from a Skywest recruiter. Something to do with Skywest's routes for Alaska, which owns Virgin, which has gates at DAL.
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Old 01-31-2018, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Castle Bravo
More Likely DAL that DFW. Heard during a pitch from a Skywest recruiter. Something to do with Skywest's routes for Alaska, which owns Virgin, which has gates at DAL.
That would make sense.
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Old 02-01-2018, 03:54 PM
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