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01-17-2018, 01:40 PM

#6771

3GreenKSNA

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Originally Posted by mketch11

I was trying to give them some motivation and reassurance. But your solution is to just “tell them you don’t want to upgrade”? Wonder how many guys that has worked for who didn’t want to upgrade so far...
Pretty sure you have to prove to the FAA/company that you are aren’t ready to be PIC, aka fail your training, then you have a failure on your record following you everywhere. But I’ll be sure to check the box on the next displacement that says “I don’t want to”

Has anyone called the FAA to see what they think of a company that is forcing people to be PIC against their will?

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01-17-2018, 01:51 PM

#6772

CaptJackSparrow

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Originally Posted by 3GreenKSNA

Has anyone called the FAA to see what they think of a company that is forcing people to be PIC against their will?

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What's the FAA going to say? "You have a PIC type rating but we agree you aren't ready for the left seat"? Yeah right...

01-17-2018, 01:52 PM

#6773

3GreenKSNA

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Originally Posted by CaptJackSparrow

What's the FAA going to say? "You have a PIC type rating but we agree you aren't ready for the left seat"? Yeah right...

Excellent point....

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01-17-2018, 02:13 PM

#6774

BigZ

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Originally Posted by moon

I think that was the last class of 2017, which was 58 I think. Probably just didn't get the picture taken until the came back from home study.

Good point, could be
Was posted yesterday and the 145 ord/lga numbers agree, just minus the crj and some of the 175, so looks odd

01-17-2018, 02:19 PM

#6775

goldenbear1

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Training schedule

Can anyone lay out a basic training format for me? Is it only Monday through Friday or weekends as well? Are you given any time off?

01-17-2018, 04:21 PM

#6776

ParkingatMIA

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Over on the republic forum they are talking about envoy taking the 175 down to MIA. Any truth to that?

01-17-2018, 04:29 PM

#6777

bigtime209

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ParkingatMIA

Over on the republic forum they are talking about envoy taking the 175 down to MIA. Any truth to that?

Word is from a couple of different mgmt types, there will be some fly through flying later this summer.

01-17-2018, 08:10 PM

#6778

YeOleLipStrip

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BigZ

Envoy FB page gives very different numbers

Kicking off 2018 with a bang and welcoming nearly 60 new pilots to the team! #TeamEnvoy *This class is made up of 32 ORD EMJ, 9 ORD E175, 17 LGA EMJ

Those are for a different class, previous to this most recent one

Edit: just noticed someone else had answered that already and said the same thing

01-17-2018, 10:20 PM

#6779

Knobcrk1

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Originally Posted by mketch11

That’s fine you can do some on the job training on the left seat with paying passengers. Just let me know when you do so I can tell my family to take the next one. If he doesn’t feel ready, he needs to tell them. That’s the only way they’ll stop these force do upgrades and come up with a safer solution. I guarantee asaps will be on the rise or worse...