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Old 09-28-2017, 03:42 PM
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I don't understand how the company thinks this is a good idea let alone safe! Why would you upgrade the lowest seniorty guy? He/she probably doesn't have any good experience to be in command. Not that this should be happening at all but if anything it's the senior guys that should be "forced" to upgrade. This whole thing makes no sense. I think when they agreed to it they expected to have guys with plenty of experience not 1000 sic. What happened to Saftey being priority?
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Old 09-28-2017, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
I don't understand how the company thinks this is a good idea let alone safe! Why would you upgrade the lowest seniorty guy? He/she probably doesn't have any good experience to be in command. Not that this should be happening at all but if anything it's the senior guys that should be "forced" to upgrade. This whole thing makes no sense. I think when they agreed to it they expected to have guys with plenty of experience not 1000 sic. What happened to Saftey being priority?

This is labor relations 101 stuff, guys like Pedro4President and Jersdawg can be read like an open book.

Get everyone flustered and then they'll agree to anything.

See below links to demonstrate my case in point;

https://youtu.be/SiGpvj1PwgU

And;

https://youtu.be/GKZJdaiJF84
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:15 PM
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Grab that net and catch that butterfly, cowboy!
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206
This is labor relations 101 stuff, guys like Pedro4President and Jersdawg can be read like an open book.

Get everyone flustered and then they'll agree to anything.

See below links to demonstrate my case in point;

https://youtu.be/SiGpvj1PwgU

And;

https://youtu.be/GKZJdaiJF84
Lol. I have no book. I have no agenda. I don't over react.

The company threatened to force upgrades. The union has said the company intends to force upgrades.

I have no insider information because I don't volunteer with the union. I'm not in recruitment or management. Im just a regular line pilot
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Lol. I have no book. I have no agenda. I don't over react.

The company threatened to force upgrades. The union has said the company intends to force upgrades.

I have no insider information because I don't volunteer with the union. I'm not in recruitment or management. Im just a regular line pilot
Could have fooled me.

I predict this will be you in perhaps 2-3 months from now;

https://youtu.be/vFevxqmg92s
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:22 PM
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I predict this will be you in perhaps 2-3 months from now;

https://youtu.be/vFevxqmg92s
We're going to build a wall. The most beautiful wall you've ever seen. And Mesa will pay for it. Because when Mesa sends us their pilots..they don't send the good ones. They're slam-clickers. They eat tuna in the cockpit. They wear sunglasses indoors. They never fill out the hotel sign in sheet. Some, I assume, are good pilots.

But like I was saying...they're rapists.
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Old 09-28-2017, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by havick206
Could have fooled me.

I predict this will be you in perhaps 2-3 months from now;

https://youtu.be/vFevxqmg92s
What job did they take from me? I already checked the I'll upgrade box. I knew they weren't going to offer DCE/DCL for much longer.

What did I predict/say that makes you think I over reacted?
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Old 09-28-2017, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
I don't understand how the company thinks this is a good idea let alone safe! Why would you upgrade the lowest seniorty guy? He/she probably doesn't have any good experience to be in command. Not that this should be happening at all but if anything it's the senior guys that should be "forced" to upgrade. This whole thing makes no sense. I think when they agreed to it they expected to have guys with plenty of experience not 1000 sic. What happened to Saftey being priority?
Safety wise I am not worried unless a person has been asleep at the wheel for those last 1000 hours. Unless of course mentally they don't feel ready and lack the confidence of being in command. Then it's truly wrong on so many levels
The part about how terrible this whole thing is how it's going to impact someone who is a new hire and a refugee escaping from another airline. With this imposed upgrade they might end up being miserable.

LGA for the next 5 years 2 on reserve as everyone above you keeps trickling in as a captain and kicks you to the bottom ultimate in the **itter QOL

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Old 09-28-2017, 05:34 PM
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Safety wise I am not worried unless a person has been asleep at the wheel for those last 1000 hours. Unless of course mentally they don't feel ready and lack the confidence of being in command. Then it's truly wrong on so many levels
The part about how terrible this whole thing is how it's going to impact someone who is a new hire and a refugee escaping from another airline. With this imposed upgrade they might end up being miserable.

LGA for the next 5 years 2 on reserve as everyone above you keeps trickling in as a captain and kicks you to the bottom ultimate in the **itter QOL

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1000 sic is barely enough to maybe pass training. No way enough to be an airline CA safely. I'm sure the FAA would not be happy either. They're going to lose a bunch of new hires if they go along with this. People didn't sign up to be at the bottom indefinitely and in some cases different base.
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Old 09-28-2017, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
1000 sic is barely enough to maybe pass training. No way enough to be an airline CA safely. I'm sure the FAA would not be happy either. They're going to lose a bunch of new hires if they go along with this.


If I said the thought hasn’t cross my mind I would be lying! They can keep there bonus.. to be displaced to indefinite reserve to have to commute is not worth a few bucks to me at least!


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