Search

Notices
Envoy Airlines Regional Airline

Envoy

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-21-2017, 04:12 AM
  #2951  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 260
Default

Originally Posted by Whiskey4
Approx. reserve times:

DFW 175: 2-3 months
DFW 145: 8-10 months
ORD CRJ: 6 months
ORD 145: 8-10 months
LGA 145: 3-5 months

Someone else might have better numbers. Mine were as of April.
As an update, friend on 175 was awarded composite line for June. It will be his third month on reserve.

Ironically and somewhat frustratingly he may not get it for July. The problem is that there are about four guys who failed SV/PV/MV or some combination of them, sat at home for the last three months waiting for retrains and now get to skip reserve due to their higher seniority numbers.

Not to hijack thread, but does that seem fair to be bumped down the list after doing your duty on reserve because people blew events in training?
AZPilotMike is offline  
Old 05-21-2017, 04:49 AM
  #2952  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 113
Default

Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
Not to hijack thread, but does that seem fair to be bumped down the list after doing your duty on reserve because people blew events in training?
Yes it seems very fair! You new guys are ridiculous. Do you have any idea how good you have it? Most people who have been here more than 3 years Sat reserve for 2-3 years, upgraded in 7-8 years, got displaced back to FO several times, and were never even offered so much as a pencil to write with when we showed up to class. Why don't you take your $20,000 sign-on bonus and some of your 3rd year pay and go cry to a therapist. Seniority is everything in the airline business. It used to be called, "paying your dues." Nowadays, everyone expects that someone else should pay their dues for them.
Eject is offline  
Old 05-21-2017, 05:00 AM
  #2953  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 302
Default

Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
As an update, friend on 175 was awarded composite line for June. It will be his third month on reserve.

Ironically and somewhat frustratingly he may not get it for July. The problem is that there are about four guys who failed SV/PV/MV or some combination of them, sat at home for the last three months waiting for retrains and now get to skip reserve due to their higher seniority numbers.

Not to hijack thread, but does that seem fair to be bumped down the list after doing your duty on reserve because people blew events in training?
Relax. Many folks sat reserve 4+ years before holding a line (making 21k with no bonuses).

To answer your question, yes it's fair and normal because it's a seniority system based on date of hire.
3EngineTaxi is offline  
Old 05-21-2017, 05:43 AM
  #2954  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
Default

Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
As an update, friend on 175 was awarded composite line for June. It will be his third month on reserve.

Ironically and somewhat frustratingly he may not get it for July. The problem is that there are about four guys who failed SV/PV/MV or some combination of them, sat at home for the last three months waiting for retrains and now get to skip reserve due to their higher seniority numbers.

Not to hijack thread, but does that seem fair to be bumped down the list after doing your duty on reserve because people blew events in training?
Yes. Like others have said, you new guys have no freakin clue how good you have it. Relax, it's gonna be okay.
bigtime209 is offline  
Old 05-21-2017, 07:36 AM
  #2955  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: CA
Posts: 207
Default

Originally Posted by Eject
Yes it seems very fair! You new guys are ridiculous. Do you have any idea how good you have it? Most people who have been here more than 3 years Sat reserve for 2-3 years, upgraded in 7-8 years, got displaced back to FO several times, and were never even offered so much as a pencil to write with when we showed up to class. Why don't you take your $20,000 sign-on bonus and some of your 3rd year pay and go cry to a therapist. Seniority is everything in the airline business. It used to be called, "paying your dues." Nowadays, everyone expects that someone else should pay their dues for them.
"Millennials". You know you're flying with one when the first thing they ask is "when are you flowing". Oh and don't bother buying one a drink on an overnight. The word "thank you" isn't in their vocabulary.
Machwon is offline  
Old 05-21-2017, 09:18 AM
  #2956  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,523
Default

Originally Posted by Machwon
"Millennials". You know you're flying with one when the first thing they ask is "when are you flowing". Oh and don't bother buying one a drink on an overnight. The word "thank you" isn't in their vocabulary.
Is that not an okay question?
bigtime209 is offline  
Old 05-21-2017, 10:20 AM
  #2957  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Position: CA
Posts: 207
Default

Originally Posted by bigtime209
Is that not an okay question?
Not when it's the first thing that comes out of your mouth. How about introducing yourself first ?
Machwon is offline  
Old 05-21-2017, 02:30 PM
  #2958  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 667
Default

Originally Posted by AZPilotMike
As an update, friend on 175 was awarded composite line for June. It will be his third month on reserve.

Ironically and somewhat frustratingly he may not get it for July. The problem is that there are about four guys who failed SV/PV/MV or some combination of them, sat at home for the last three months waiting for retrains and now get to skip reserve due to their higher seniority numbers.

Not to hijack thread, but does that seem fair to be bumped down the list after doing your duty on reserve because people blew events in training?
So seniority means nothing. When you upgrade should you hold a line because you did as an fo? But I get it reserve sucks here
Smutter is offline  
Old 05-21-2017, 07:33 PM
  #2959  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Jersdawg's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 674
Default

Originally Posted by Machwon
Not when it's the first thing that comes out of your mouth. How about introducing yourself first ?
Disagree. Anything is fair game on a message board.
Jersdawg is offline  
Old 05-21-2017, 08:46 PM
  #2960  
On Reserve
 
Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 13
Default

Originally Posted by Whiskey4
Approx. reserve times:

DFW 175: 2-3 months
DFW 145: 8-10 months
ORD CRJ: 6 months
ORD 145: 8-10 months
LGA 145: 3-5 months

Someone else might have better numbers. Mine were as of April.
February 27 new hire awarded DFW in march won't transfer until December. 9 months to hold DFW from DOH. Then reserve on top of that.
Moneyj is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
PilotCrusader
Envoy Airlines
116
05-31-2016 09:02 AM
diva
Envoy Airlines
649
09-19-2015 10:03 AM
somedayillcare
Envoy Airlines
1
12-10-2014 02:30 AM
Romulus
Envoy Airlines
15
10-14-2014 06:34 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices