bigtime209

Fixed wing. That's why the Envoy rotor transition program has gotten so popular. It's made it possible for those guys to get into the 121 world.

Pedro4President

Alright trigger happy Envoy flow defender. Next time slow down and read his question and maybe you can give an appropriate answer. He was asking does AA hire Envoy pilots outside of the flow.

AA has hired pilots outside of the flow. Number one reason (IMO) guys get hired outside the flow is due to internships. Others have been hired but I haven't heard of anyone lately. Some people might suggest people of certain minority groups likely get hired, but I think it may have more to do with having connections and knowing someone. Anyone know anyone who got hired through the front door at AA via Envoy?

Eaglepilot84

Agreed it is weak. The point is that AAG made a change which hurts our future earnings and QOL. This in a time when they are making fake "goodwill" gestures to certain pilot groups. Perfect example is down at the training center. Envoy management could give 2 sheets about anybody who has a substantial time invested here, but they will throw all sorts of swag at new-hires. The thing that the new-hires don't realize is that once they hit the line, the honeymoon wears off and they are treated like any other line pilot getting their arsed kicked on reserve.

That being said I'm just giving new-hires a glimpse of the bed they're about to get in. I'm flowing soon so have made up my mind that I'm staying . Whether we hire 20/month or 70/month, I don't think my time-to-flow really changes so I couldn't really care less how many new-hires we get or not.

Jersdawg

Count on pilots using their hard earned sick time before they flow. Guess they'll have to build that into the staffing models.

Subpilot

Exactly what will happen and I don't blame anyone for doing that. They earned that time as a benifit of the contract.

Shiner

I've got another thing to add about how to bid transition. Once your line comes out, you have 24 hours to change your selection on transition. So once you see what line you got, you can decide at that time if selecting transition will help or hurt you and act accordingly.

This also applies to vacation sliding and DTS. Wait and see what line you got, and then make your changes with what works best for you.

ParkingatMIA

What kind of internships can a current pilot get over at AA ?

E175 Driver

That would severely damage that HI10. Company should punish those that do.

Bob Loblaw

For utilising part of their compensation package?

E175 Driver

What compensation package? The way that it was explained to me the only thing the preferential pilots take to AA are their employee number.

No sick nor vacation time.