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05-04-2017, 09:31 PM

#2761

leica typ240

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Originally Posted by RawHide

Might want to check fm1 there are certain times two are required. It changed about 2 years ago

...from my understanding, two is needed when wingtip clearance is in question or/and when hand signals are being used!

05-04-2017, 11:34 PM

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Subpilot

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Originally Posted by leica typ240

...the area outside is clear from obstructions and personnel, it informs the FA that it is safe to open the main door!

I thought FAs' don't open the doors, gate agent does. This is mainly to prevent accidental slide activation.

05-05-2017, 02:46 AM

#2763

Jersdawg

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Originally Posted by Subpilot

I thought FAs' don't open the doors, gate agent does. This is mainly to prevent accidental slide activation.

The CRJ is different, the door is opened by the FAs.

05-05-2017, 04:55 AM

#2764

AZPilotMike

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Originally Posted by leica typ240

...from my understanding, two is needed when wingtip clearance is in question or/and when hand signals are being used!

I checked, 2 agents required yes, but only one as a wing walker. Station management may require a third, making it two wing walkers. This all on the push back.

Coming in, a minimum of one wing walker is required unless clearance is less then 10 feet from any obstacle.

05-05-2017, 04:57 AM

#2765

AZPilotMike

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Originally Posted by bigtime209

2 wing walkers are required for the 175 at most, if not all gates at all times in DFW. I believe that is a ramp policy more than an FM1 policy. I believe there are a handful of gates B gates that only 1 wing walker is required, at least that's how it was at one point. Furthermore, there are specific scenarios that require 2 wing walkers for all fleet types per FM1.

As far as the door/seatbelt sign goes...parking break set, seatbelts off, doors open.

This is correct in regards to ramp policy often being stricter than the FM1. As for seatbelt going off, the captain kills #1 and when you get the off indication seat belt signs go off.

05-05-2017, 07:07 AM

#2766

bigtime209

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Originally Posted by AZPilotMike

This is correct in regards to ramp policy often being stricter than the FM1. As for seatbelt going off, the captain kills #1 and when you get the off indication seat belt signs go off.

Yeah sorry...that's absolutely correct, I should've been more clear. I was just trying to illustrate that the parking break being set is when everything is good to go instead of waiting for chocks. But yes, killing the engine is when the signs go off.