Envoy
#2562
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: middle seat in the back
Posts: 232
The junior guys are going to the 145, the fleet with the most movement. If you don't get the base you want, you probably will before you finish IOE. So what's your complaint? You need a second opinion, you have SJS.
The older guys deserve the seniority just based on the fact that they aren't D Bags on Guard.
#2564
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2011
Posts: 239
Get over yourself. It's an airplane. Does it really matter what one you get? Seriously? At the end of the day you're a regional driver, and just because your engines hang from the wings doesn't mean that your peers think your a superior pilot. I'm 35 and got the 145 and paycheck is the same as the guys on the 175 and nobody cares. SJS at its finest...
The guys at Envoy flying planes with underwing engines are, in fact, viewed by their peers as being superior pilots. There are separate crew lounges for 175 drivers with mahogany paneled walls and slurpee machines. Each new hire into the 175 gets special shirt/jacket wings with a little 175 on them, a check for $17,100 and a baby unicorn on day one. Paychecks also include a line item for "UWE" that provides a small bonus each month. I tell you...the bitterness from the "OWE" (over-wing engine) crowd is just pervasive on the forums these days.
In all seriousness though... There are a million ways to assign day one seniority (alll of which put someone at the bottom).
Why not grant seniority by date the interview process began? That way Cadets who spend four years in college and perhaps an additional year instructing while remaining loyal to Envoy get some preference?
Or date the Conditional Job Offer returned?
Or tallest to shortest...that way all the tall folks get a shot at the larger cabin?
Using age simply takes the metric of "career expectations / progression" into account. Those with the shortest time on property get a very small boost in the system on day one. Those with longer careers will have an opportunity to take those spots with the additional remaining years.
No system Is perfect.
Last edited by Whiskey4; 04-25-2017 at 07:17 AM.
#2565
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 302
#2566
#2568
On Reserve
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 10
Lies! Utter lies!!!
The guys at Envoy flying planes with underwing engines are, in fact, viewed by their peers as being superior pilots. There are separate crew lounges for 175 drivers with mahogany paneled walls and slurpee machines. Each new hire into the 175 gets special shirt/jacket wings with a little 175 on them, a check for $17,100 and a baby unicorn on day one. Paychecks also include a line item for "UWE" that provides a small bonus each month. I tell you...the bitterness from the "OWE" (over-wing engine) crowd is just pervasive on the forums these days.
The guys at Envoy flying planes with underwing engines are, in fact, viewed by their peers as being superior pilots. There are separate crew lounges for 175 drivers with mahogany paneled walls and slurpee machines. Each new hire into the 175 gets special shirt/jacket wings with a little 175 on them, a check for $17,100 and a baby unicorn on day one. Paychecks also include a line item for "UWE" that provides a small bonus each month. I tell you...the bitterness from the "OWE" (over-wing engine) crowd is just pervasive on the forums these days.
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