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#1681
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
Because I had no choice. Not everyone here is a line holder. Besides, it doesn't even require a phone call anymore. Now that we have to check your HI3 or HI6 before going home. Regardless, things never will get better here. Staffing and schedules will be way behind the demand and squeezing us captains to the breaking point. This is a different company alright. No doubt about it.
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Remember, you only have to check your HI6 if called in off rap for a turn.
#1682
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
#1683
Because I had no choice. Not everyone here is a line holder. Besides, it doesn't even require a phone call anymore. Now that we have to check your HI3 or HI6 before going home. Regardless, things never will get better here. Staffing and schedules will be way behind the demand and squeezing us captains to the breaking point. This is a different company alright. No doubt about it.
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#1684
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Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: Noob
Posts: 184
My understanding is a standby needs to check his HI3 and a RAP pilot has to check his HI3 and HI6. Is this correct? I've heard it's within 15 minutes of block in, but I didn't see an actual time in the contract.
#1685
Banned
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 787
Pretty simple: When on a sequence, you have to check your HI3 and HI6 once daily. When sitting at home on a RAP, you don't have a sequence..so no HI3. But you still have to check your HI6.
If you are a Reserve pilot on a sequence, you can release yourself at the end of a trip by checking your HI3 after blocking in. Your HI6 only needs to be checked once a day...so if you already did that at some point earlier in the day you don't have to do it again.
You also only have to check your HI3 once a day. For line holders that's pretty straight forward. For Reserve pilots, although you only have to check it once a day it is also how you can release yourself at the end of a trip without calling CS. Either way, a pilot only needs to check HI3 and/or HI6 ONCE a day. Period. If you have already done so at some point you have no obligation to do it again.
A separate issue is when to answer your phone. Reserve pilots on a RAP or sitting standby have to answer when called. Line holders don't have any obligation to answer their phone. Reserve pilots on a sequence also don't have any obligation to answer their phone. The only time CS can re-assign you is if someone makes positive contact with you. That includes you answering your phone (for whatever resason) or someone meeting you on the jetbridge. As of our latest contract, that also includes ACARS messages...a little known tidbit.
*Just want to clarify one point: If you are on Reserve and finish a sequence...you MUST either call Scheduling to get released or check your HI3. You can't just get up and walk out. But if you are mid-sequence you have no obligation to answer your phone or call CS for any reason. HI3 and HI6 still need to be checked ONCE a day...at any time. This includes when you first wake up at 4am.
If you are a Reserve pilot on a sequence, you can release yourself at the end of a trip by checking your HI3 after blocking in. Your HI6 only needs to be checked once a day...so if you already did that at some point earlier in the day you don't have to do it again.
You also only have to check your HI3 once a day. For line holders that's pretty straight forward. For Reserve pilots, although you only have to check it once a day it is also how you can release yourself at the end of a trip without calling CS. Either way, a pilot only needs to check HI3 and/or HI6 ONCE a day. Period. If you have already done so at some point you have no obligation to do it again.
A separate issue is when to answer your phone. Reserve pilots on a RAP or sitting standby have to answer when called. Line holders don't have any obligation to answer their phone. Reserve pilots on a sequence also don't have any obligation to answer their phone. The only time CS can re-assign you is if someone makes positive contact with you. That includes you answering your phone (for whatever resason) or someone meeting you on the jetbridge. As of our latest contract, that also includes ACARS messages...a little known tidbit.
*Just want to clarify one point: If you are on Reserve and finish a sequence...you MUST either call Scheduling to get released or check your HI3. You can't just get up and walk out. But if you are mid-sequence you have no obligation to answer your phone or call CS for any reason. HI3 and HI6 still need to be checked ONCE a day...at any time. This includes when you first wake up at 4am.
Last edited by Skyvector; 03-16-2017 at 04:07 PM.
#1686
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2008
Posts: 239
Because I had no choice. Not everyone here is a line holder. Besides, it doesn't even require a phone call anymore. Now that we have to check your HI3 or HI6 before going home. Regardless, things never will get better here. Staffing and schedules will be way behind the demand and squeezing us captains to the breaking point. This is a different company alright. No doubt about it.
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#1687
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Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 787
CS: "Scheduling..."
You:"Yeah, just calling to get released."
CS:"Hang on.."
*sounds of typing...sounds of more typing
CS: "Hang on"
*Puts you on HOLD!*
CS comes back: "yeah, we have a Springfield overnight for you.."
Now? Brake set...hit HI3 on mobile CCI. Nothing there...done. Go home. Beautiful.
#1688
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Joined APC: Sep 2008
Posts: 239
Massive improvement. Who remembers this from back in the day:
CS: "Scheduling..."
You:"Yeah, just calling to get released."
CS:"Hang on.."
*sounds of typing...sounds of more typing
CS: "Hang on"
*Puts you on HOLD!*
CS comes back: "yeah, we have a Springfield overnight for you.."
Now? Brake set...hit HI3 on mobile CCI. Nothing there...done. Go home. Beautiful.
CS: "Scheduling..."
You:"Yeah, just calling to get released."
CS:"Hang on.."
*sounds of typing...sounds of more typing
CS: "Hang on"
*Puts you on HOLD!*
CS comes back: "yeah, we have a Springfield overnight for you.."
Now? Brake set...hit HI3 on mobile CCI. Nothing there...done. Go home. Beautiful.
#1689
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
Well yes HI3. HI6 must be checked once a day on duty, but also at the end of a turn or multiple turns when called in from RAP. Sorry if it sounded like bad advice it was meant as a don't help out I'd you don't have to post.
#1690
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 854
This is not the only time you have to check your HI6-- if you are on a RAP and get called for a day trip, you are required to check your HI6 again at the end to see if you are finished for the day or are being released back into your RAP (with 2 hours to get home, and another 2 hour call out).
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