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#1491
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
This is the only reason we are going to have a two year upgrade this year. We have so many FOs bypassing the upgrade for better QOL. With the new bonuses we have it helps increase ones pay to more manageable levels. 100hrs at 40$ plus 10k vs 75 hrs at 70ish isn't much difference. The main thing that sets the pay apart is the CA OT/JM. It is really hard to convince me to go from working ten days a month to 20. Putting my kids to bed most nights vs not seeing them for 10 days in a row, is a HUGE QOL difference. If they can ever catch up on the CA side of hiring then I'll start looking at upgrading.
#1492
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Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 302
It is really hard to convince me to go from working ten days a month to 20. Putting my kids to bed most nights vs not seeing them for 10 days in a row, is a HUGE QOL difference. If they can ever catch up on the CA side of hiring then I'll start looking at upgrading.
The schedules are terrible all around.
#1496
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
Look at dfw fo reserve list. People not getting used a lot. Thank god they TDYed out of ORD. 20 people at home yesterday, more than is ever available in ORD.
#1498
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Joined APC: May 2016
Posts: 1,609
Yes, you are correct on all your assumptions. Not every month is a ten day month but I always try. March is going to be a bit more I think.
#1499
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Joined APC: Aug 2011
Posts: 394
For the guys asking questions about commuting from XYZ...
Generally, the most import thing to look at is frequency and how many flights are on AA/Envoy.
Frequency is import because you need to give yourself two flights that get in before sign in. If you try two and don't make it, you don't have to go to work that day (it's an unpaid day off), and you can try again the next day. You get six of these "commuter policies" in a year. Most guys just use a few.
Frequency is also important going home. Having a late flight back to your home (8, 9, or 10pm) can make a huge difference in QOL. I'd rather roll into bed at midnight at home than stay an extra night in base and have to wake up early to catch a flight home.
AA and Envoy flights are really helpful for getting the Jumpseat. Some of the cities being mentioned have a ton of commuters (PHX, ATL, LAS, SAN) and having priority on the jumpseat will make a huge difference when loads get heavy (summertime and holidays).
The Airbus has 2 jumpseats, so having those on your route also helps a lot.
Some people say commuters are crazy for trying it, but if you like where you live, it's worth it. I've been doing it almost 4 years and have no regrets.
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Generally, the most import thing to look at is frequency and how many flights are on AA/Envoy.
Frequency is import because you need to give yourself two flights that get in before sign in. If you try two and don't make it, you don't have to go to work that day (it's an unpaid day off), and you can try again the next day. You get six of these "commuter policies" in a year. Most guys just use a few.
Frequency is also important going home. Having a late flight back to your home (8, 9, or 10pm) can make a huge difference in QOL. I'd rather roll into bed at midnight at home than stay an extra night in base and have to wake up early to catch a flight home.
AA and Envoy flights are really helpful for getting the Jumpseat. Some of the cities being mentioned have a ton of commuters (PHX, ATL, LAS, SAN) and having priority on the jumpseat will make a huge difference when loads get heavy (summertime and holidays).
The Airbus has 2 jumpseats, so having those on your route also helps a lot.
Some people say commuters are crazy for trying it, but if you like where you live, it's worth it. I've been doing it almost 4 years and have no regrets.
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