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Old 03-02-2017, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
RAP is a 2 hour minimum call out. Sometimes they give you more time. Airport standby/ready reserve means you are physically at the airport. In either case you have to answer when they call, or call back within 15 minutes.
3 hour call out in lga too.
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Old 03-02-2017, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by highfarfast
I wanted to add something like this when I commented but wasn't sure. Yes, you have to add them yourself for sure. My memory says it was 24 hours to be processed (not just for them, but for myself). However, as far as I could tell from the website after I entered their info, it was immediate. But, again, I didn't test it.
I think my wife was active befor I was. I logged in around Tuesday or Wednesday of Indoc before we actually had our login info. I had to do my initial account creation. Took me until the next working day to be active, but my wife and other family said active as soon as I hit submit.
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Old 03-02-2017, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MD-11Loader
Live in AOM 1. Learn your flows, and not from the pictures. Learn from the detailed description of the flow and know why you're doing what you're doing.

Of course your limitations and memory items as well.
Thanks! I still have 260 hours left of slam and goes in the bug smasher till I get there, just trying to get a leg up.
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:44 AM
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Anyone on this thread have any experience with becoming a Envoy Senior
Cadet and not becoming a CFI? Looking at building time as a VFR FAR 135 pilot to reach the 1500 hours for R-ATP. Any advice for applying to Envoy/PSA/PDT? I understand the crew base and fleet differences, but I was curious if there were other issues to consider.

Thanks in advance,
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Old 03-03-2017, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Icaruss
Thanks for the explanation.

What type of reserve should I expect out of training? RAP or airport standby? Can you bid for either one? How would a RAP work if you have to commute to your base?
You will be given a so-called "default" RAP beginning at 0400 on your first day of reserve. This is not spelled out in the contract, is pretty obviously not contractual, but the company convinced a friendly arbitrator to sign off on it so that's what we all get.

You can, however, proffer/preference out of 0400 RAP. The day before a reserve day, you look at the open trips and the reserve list and between 1000-1400 CT submit your proffer/preference for the next day. If your seniority can hold what you asked for you get it, and can confirm it after 1700. If you either don't get what you asked for, or fail to (or decide not to) confirm it, you default back to 0400 RAP.

In reality you will get a mix of flying, airport standby, and RAPs, different every day. As you get some people under you, you'll get what you proffer for more often. If you can't get something with a late sign in, you'll have to commute in the night before.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:20 AM
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28 flows selected for March.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
28 flows selected for March.


Including a guy who has been inactive for 3+ years. Anyone know the rules on inactives in the 824? Contract doesn't seem to specifically mention it.


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Old 03-03-2017, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
28 flows selected for March.
A few ORD people seemed to have a change of heart. With the next selection probably being the end of the 824 I'll be curious how many previous defers change their mind. A lot of vacation and sick time carry over hangs in the balance for number 824 vs 825.

I'm also really curious to see how many formerly numbered pilots and longtime FOs take the protected pilot flow in the first couple months.
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Old 03-03-2017, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by airlinegypsy
Including a guy who has been inactive for 3+ years. Anyone know the rules on inactives in the 824? Contract doesn't seem to specifically mention it.


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Not sure about his specific case but the flow seems to have magic healing abilities where everyone seems to return to active status just prior to their flow date.
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Old 03-03-2017, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by go skers
Not sure about his specific case but the flow seems to have magic healing abilities where everyone seems to return to active status just prior to their flow date.


This particular pilot, DS, is not on the flow plan indicating a return to active status, or currently typed on any a/c on property.


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