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10-26-2018, 09:19 PM

#10191

dera

In a land of unicorns

Joined APC: Apr 2014

Position: Whale FO

Posts: 6,595

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houpilot2001

Until AA parks about 150 of their airplanes...then what.

Or a comet hits the earth and we all die.
Then what?

10-26-2018, 09:23 PM

#10192

highfarfast

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Joined APC: Nov 2016

Posts: 2,490

Quote:

Originally Posted by dera

No-one claimed 5 years. The recruiters said 6-8 years should be realistic. Which it is, given the current numbers.

IF major/legacy hiring demand causes attrition to bring flow for a new hire today down to 7 years, then one will be able to beat flow OTS at another airline that pays more with better work rules.

10-26-2018, 09:59 PM

#10193

dera

In a land of unicorns

Joined APC: Apr 2014

Position: Whale FO

Posts: 6,595

Quote:

Originally Posted by highfarfast

IF major/legacy hiring demand causes attrition to bring flow for a new hire today down to 7 years, then one will be able to beat flow OTS at another airline that pays more with better work rules.

I won't be able to beat the flow. So flow is #1 for me.

10-27-2018, 12:51 AM

#10194

havick206

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Joined APC: Jul 2017

Posts: 1,729

Quote:

Originally Posted by dera

I won't be able to beat the flow. So flow is #1 for me.

Did you sell weapons to the Taliban or something in a previous career?

10-27-2018, 01:19 AM

#10195

dera

In a land of unicorns

Joined APC: Apr 2014

Position: Whale FO

Posts: 6,595

Quote:

Originally Posted by havick206

Did you sell weapons to the Taliban or something in a previous career?

Nope, nothing like that.
I have 10+ years working with various ATS. I've done some consulting with Taleo. So I've got an idea about how competitive I would be.

10-27-2018, 03:36 AM

#10196

Cyio

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Joined APC: Mar 2017

Posts: 3,771

Quote:

Originally Posted by havick206

Did you sell weapons to the Taliban or something in a previous career?

I can't beat the flow either, at least not yet. Still working on my college degree. Until other airlines remove that as a major barrier to entry, I have to continue working on it and wait for the flow.

There are always reasons people choose where they want to work.

10-27-2018, 06:46 AM

#10197

KodiakRS

Line Holder

Joined APC: May 2015

Posts: 92

I'm projected to flow in mid 2019. Does our vacation time get paid out when we flow or should I plan on using all of it in the first half of next year?

10-27-2018, 07:24 AM

#10198

Pedro4President

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Joined APC: May 2016

Posts: 1,609

Quote:

Originally Posted by KodiakRS

I'm projected to flow in mid 2019. Does our vacation time get paid out when we flow or should I plan on using all of it in the first half of next year?

I'm not exactly sure on this but I hear if you use PVDs borrowed from next year then you don't have to pay it back.

10-27-2018, 07:34 AM

#10199

HobGoblin

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Joined APC: Oct 2014

Posts: 137

Vacation gets paid out, sick time does not.

Not sure about the PVDS, that’s a good idea

10-27-2018, 09:10 AM

#10200

babs

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Joined APC: Feb 2010

Posts: 366

Quote:

Originally Posted by KodiakRS

I'm projected to flow in mid 2019. Does our vacation time get paid out when we flow or should I plan on using all of it in the first half of next year?

Not sure why you wouldn’t use the vacation and just work it. If you take the vacation and work it you are getting paid vacation plus making a minimum of 150% on top of it (possibly 200% if it’s CC). If you don’t take the vacation you are losing out on that 50%-100% extra. Essentially you are making 200% instead of 250%-300% by not taking it. It makes no sense to just have it paid out when you flow. Hope I explained that well enough.