Envoy Flow #'s
#31
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
Some of you people are brain dead. Nothing in life is guaranteed except death and taxes. Could the flow be a total flop? Sure, but I'm willing to take that very small chance that it won't work as advertised rather then sell myself short and work at an LCC. If that's where you see your career going, then be my guest, I'm not going to stand in your way. Your career goals are yours and yours alone so I could care less if they're not as high as mine. But trying to stand in the way of others by making stuff up is pretty pathetic.
On another note, I'm surprised ag386 is venturing back onto APC after all of his lies were disclosed two weeks ago!!!
On another note, I'm surprised ag386 is venturing back onto APC after all of his lies were disclosed two weeks ago!!!
#32
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
Dude, what about "it's contractual" do you not understand? It's written in stone in the contract. Envoy WILL flow X number of Protected Pilots, etc.
Let me ask you a question? Are you sure the sun is going to come up tomorrow? Then have faith. AAG/ENY management are trustworthy and will honor this contract to the letter.
Just relax. This is supposed to be a "safe space" for Envoy underachievers who can't get hired anywhere else.
Let me ask you a question? Are you sure the sun is going to come up tomorrow? Then have faith. AAG/ENY management are trustworthy and will honor this contract to the letter.
Just relax. This is supposed to be a "safe space" for Envoy underachievers who can't get hired anywhere else.
Did you forget to sign out of your ag386 account before typing like your CR700 account?
#33
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
Yes we certainly are losing pilots to both LCC's and legacies every month because like you said, not everyone has the same goal.
#35
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#36
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
Posts: 175
Dude, what about "it's contractual" do you not understand? It's written in stone in the contract. Envoy WILL flow X number of Protected Pilots, etc.
Let me ask you a question? Are you sure the sun is going to come up tomorrow? Then have faith. AAG/ENY management are trustworthy and will honor this contract to the letter.
Let me ask you a question? Are you sure the sun is going to come up tomorrow? Then have faith. AAG/ENY management are trustworthy and will honor this contract to the letter.
Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
When Parker didn't like our bankruptcy contract after the hostile takeover, he sent in Jerry Glass to force us to accept a NEW contract under threat of Comair II. "Written in stone" means nothing when you're willing to smash the tablets. When our staffing situation gets so critical they need to restrict our flow, they will force another "renegotiation" on us. They know they will be able to bully us into compliance.
As for "trustworthy," that's just more BS. The grievance about the lost pay from upgrades out of seniority order is a perfect example. Oh, and the latest gem from crew scheduling is calling because they "added a 30 hour break into your schedule" and to "please call them back to confirm" in order to junior man folks, despite a clear CONTRACTUAL requirement for them to leave any details of a flight assignment in any voicemail. Our contract continues to be nothing but toilet paper to them.
#38
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
No. I think we're getting an influx of toxicity thanks to eaglelounge changing format and url. These guys don't like change and got butthurt about it. Quit the 'lounge and stamped their little feet. But they still need a bridge to live under and make sure that everyone knows envoy sucks, they'll tell you every possible way. Even the sucks that haven't happened. Like the flow stopping.
#40
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
Posts: 175
No. I think we're getting an influx of toxicity thanks to eaglelounge changing format and url. These guys don't like change and got butthurt about it. Quit the 'lounge and stamped their little feet. But they still need a bridge to live under and make sure that everyone knows envoy sucks, they'll tell you every possible way. Even the sucks that haven't happened. Like the flow stopping.
My reasons for posting here are because I have no intention of letting AAG management destroy the morale of an entire company over a few dollars an hour, and then try to blow sunshine up the posteriors of potential employees thinking they can get away with it. Parker and his cabal put an enourmous amount of unnecessary stress on the employees of this company and their families, and it has had a very real effect on marriages and relationships. Moves, commuting, lost pay, lost days at home all add up. Actions have consequences, and disgruntled employees are what AAG has wrought. No way am I going to let a management lackey's (cr700)....to put it politely, embellishment of the truth go unchallenged.
I warned everyone that if we gave into Parker in the TA, he would know he could bully us into anything from then on. Just watch what happens when we get to #825.
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