Envoy to retrieve the 20 E-175's from Compass
03-27-2016, 04:08 PM
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Good news, but not necessarily growth. The only way Envoy can sustain growth or even maintain present footprint is via 30-40 new-hires/month consistently and so far that necessary component has not materialized. More E-175's should surprise no one though as Envoy is slated to add those and transition older, smaller jets out over time.
03-27-2016, 04:10 PM
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03-27-2016, 04:10 PM
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Darn it...if it wasn't for that dumb thing called a contract that CP has with AA. Oh well.
03-27-2016, 04:15 PM
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Nice argument but new hires don't go to a Regional based on a plane....they go for the base and then money...unless Envoy takes back LAX from us I doubt taking those planes away and staffing them in DFW or whatever other base they want to open (MIA rumor) will attract new hires....
03-27-2016, 04:20 PM
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It's AA who owns a bunch of the Compass 175s, not Envoy.
But the title implies that Envoy pilots think of themselves as AA pilots. Hence, "Envoy to retrieve..." (vs. "AA to retrieve...") ...as if Envoy owns them!
I bet at least 1/2 the Envoy pilot group tell people they meet that they fly for American Airlines.
Cracks me up.
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03-27-2016, 04:20 PM
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Nice argument but new hires don't go to a Regional based on a plane....they go for the base and then money...unless Envoy takes back LAX from us I doubt taking those planes away and staffing them in DFW or whatever other base they want to open (MIA rumor) will attract new hires....
Some guys are in compass not because of LAX, it was the fast growth and upgrades. I also seen guys saying "I would like envoy but I don't want to fly the 145, only the 175". Yes, SJS still out there and most new hires also believe the 175 will make them "more competitive".
Like I said, is not about performance, is about what's cheaper for AA. Also envoy used to fly thru LAX with ORD CRJ crews. It can be done...
03-27-2016, 04:26 PM
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Doesn't matter for most passengers anyway, as they think they ARE flying AA when they board an "American Eagle" RJ anyway. What AAG regional pilots tell others at cocktail parties or bars to pick up chicks is another story.
03-27-2016, 04:28 PM
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Attractive as a mean of growth, fast upgrade and flow. Why on earth they would upgrade 70+ guys? They clearly want to bring upgrade down.
Some guys are in compass not because of LAX, it was the fast growth and upgrades. I also seen guys saying "I would like envoy but I don't want to fly the 145, only the 175". Yes, SJS still out there and most new hires also believe the 175 will make them "more competitive".
Like I said, is not about performance, is about what's cheaper for AA. Also envoy used to fly thru LAX with ORD CRJ crews. It can be done...
Some guys are in compass not because of LAX, it was the fast growth and upgrades. I also seen guys saying "I would like envoy but I don't want to fly the 145, only the 175". Yes, SJS still out there and most new hires also believe the 175 will make them "more competitive".
Like I said, is not about performance, is about what's cheaper for AA. Also envoy used to fly thru LAX with ORD CRJ crews. It can be done...
Your first sentence in your last paragraph just summed up why AA more than likely won't take those jets away...
03-27-2016, 04:30 PM
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03-27-2016, 04:35 PM
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Attractive as a mean of growth, fast upgrade and flow. Why on earth they would upgrade 70+ guys? They clearly want to bring upgrade down.
Some guys are in compass not because of LAX, it was the fast growth and upgrades. I also seen guys saying "I would like envoy but I don't want to fly the 145, only the 175". Yes, SJS still out there and most new hires also believe the 175 will make them "more competitive".
Like I said, is not about performance, is about what's cheaper for AA. Also envoy used to fly thru LAX with ORD CRJ crews. It can be done...
Some guys are in compass not because of LAX, it was the fast growth and upgrades. I also seen guys saying "I would like envoy but I don't want to fly the 145, only the 175". Yes, SJS still out there and most new hires also believe the 175 will make them "more competitive".
Like I said, is not about performance, is about what's cheaper for AA. Also envoy used to fly thru LAX with ORD CRJ crews. It can be done...
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