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Old 03-21-2016, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ag386
With this announcement alone AND with a 3 to 4 month halt in flows from Envoy for Letter T returnees, I would expect December would be the last class Envoy would truly be able to flow 30, if they took that many for quite some time.

If this BIG ANNOUNCEMENT is even more frames, you may even see the flow restricted starting in October/November depending upon other attrition rates and also the ability to bring new hires in. Which obviously ain't happening in the numbers you need.

Looks like the SS Envoy is taking on water fast and it's starting to sink.
Haha hey dummy where are you coming up with a 3-4 month stoppage of flow? God you're just so clueless! Any single engine approaches or at Allegiant lately?! Everytime you post it makes me laugh at your terrible career planning...and THEN coming on here to try and give career advise! Too funny!
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Old 03-21-2016, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
Haha hey dummy where are you coming up with a 3-4 month stoppage of flow? God you're just so clueless! Any single engine approaches or at Allegiant lately?! Everytime you post it makes me laugh at your terrible career planning...and THEN coming on here to try and give career advise! Too funny!
If "3-4 months" of Letter T deferral return is so out-of-whack as you insinuate, just what are YOUR prognostications ? Also, what do single-engine approaches have to do with the topic at hand ?
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:50 PM
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why are they pulling 140's from the desert? Couldn't be bothered to hook up to the 145 sitting next to it and get a couple extra seats out of it? even if it's not envoy's the leasing company would probably give it to them anyway
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
Haha hey dummy where are you coming up with a 3-4 month stoppage of flow? God you're just so clueless! Any single engine approaches or at Allegiant lately?! Everytime you post it makes me laugh at your terrible career planning...and THEN coming on here to try and give career advise! Too funny!
Actually AAG is planning on a 3 month stoppage of the flow May-July to accommodate returning furloughs.
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
Stopping the flow = bad press, continuing the flow in the face of adversity = good press.

Makes room for upgrades.

Makes ENY more attractive.

All the other carriers we hear so many bad things about are still able to attract new hires because of movement. We're still trying to pull our feet out of the mud.

No matter. I'm sure the news will be underwhelming. Well, maybe not entirely. The rumor on another thread here is a July bid for an MIA base. Great if you live there, but doesn't fix the other problems we have.

By press, you mean forum posts? I doubt the media would care about regional pilots getting screwed.
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Old 03-21-2016, 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cr700
There it is haters. What do you have to say now?

I hate that you violate our contract every day with the preconfirmed RAPs. I hate that ALPA has a stack of grievances mostly all from this "new management". Respect our contract and then we will stop the hating.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980
By press, you mean forum posts? I doubt the media would care about regional pilots getting screwed.

Yes, I mean forum posts. The press isn't needed for this kind of advertising.

This and other places on the Internet is where prospective new hires get info. ENY recruiting probably has the email addresses of many flight schools and individual pilots who have expressed interest in the company.

If they incrementally keep increasing the gains available to the people looking at regionals they're going to hear MORE money, MORE new aircraft, MORE upgrades.

It works.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:24 PM
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My God Envoy would need to announce 60-80 airplanes worth of growth to even make it close to the movement that is going on at other properties!!!!
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:28 PM
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Good news for the Envoy guys! Congrats.
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Old 03-21-2016, 03:30 PM
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Envoy is your God? Heh, must be disappointing in the miracles department. He doesn't speak to us either.
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