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Old 12-31-2015, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ag386
Been here about 2.5 years. You?
Yeah, May 2013 hire right? We believe you.
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Old 12-31-2015, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
Yeah, May 2013 hire right? We believe you.
Close. Not quite. I'm not giving out my exact hire date with the jackal patrol on here. I'll get done with a trip late one night and come into the crew room only to get ambushed by your goon squad. After recovering from the blanket party I'll head out to the parking lot only to find my tires slashed and my car keyed.

Hey Sky, 8 year upgrade. 16 year flow. Think twice before pulling the Envoy trigger y'all.
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Old 12-31-2015, 12:40 PM
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You did give out your exact date, you bafoon. I can quote it again if you want. May 2013. You didn't count on there being only one person active with that hire date.

Here, let's remember:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...ml#post2029378

Your other account has already been banned. Hopefully the mods will wake up and finish off this account of yours as well.
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Old 12-31-2015, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
You did give out your exact date, you bafoon. I can quote it again if you want. May 2013. You didn't count on there being only one person active with that hire date.

Here, let's remember:

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...ml#post2029378

Your other account has already been banned. Hopefully the mods will wake up and finish off this account of yours as well.
You are pretty dense you goon. I already said I LIED about my hire date. It's in that neighborhood though. Sorry, I don't have another account. I think it's pretty obvious from your comments that I would get worked over by your patrol.
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Old 12-31-2015, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ag386
So I actually make eaglefly look like a knight in shining armor huh? Probably because I bluntly speak the truth.

Let's go over cold hard facts again in order to get it through to you.

Envoy. 8 plus year upgrade. 16 year flow.
PDT. Sub 1 year upgrade. Flow. ???
PSA. Sub 1 year upgrade. Flow. Not nearly as good as ENY or PDT.

What about the 8/16 at Envoy do you not comprehend? You have really been taught well in terms of putting lipstick on the pig that is Envoy. Sell it baby!
Actually I think your the same person so yes one of your personalities is less dumb and extreme than your other personality. You can keep saying 8/16 but it doesn't change the premise of my previous post. You must think that your fellow aviators are pretty stupid to not understand the circumstances facing a person hired today are different from the current career prospects of someone hired just before the biggest aviation downturn in history.

Not that I believe your 2 1/2 yr envoy pilot claim but if a you ( or any envoy FO in that circumstance) truly believes that the will fair better going to PSA, PDT or any other regional advertising a fast upgrade, I will gladly help you to make the transition. I'll even give you a letter of recommendation. Go to RAH or TSA, you will make more money from day one. You would have to be a a complete moron to stay at a company with an eight year upgrade and 16 yr flow when you can go to Mesa and upgrade in 12 months and get hired by the mainline of your choice the moment you get 1,000 hrs 121 PIC! What are you still doing here ag386? Go out, take control of your life and chase the quick upgrade promises! The Majors are waiting for you to get your magic 1,000 hrs. Those other 10,000 + pilots who already have it and are waiting for a phone call are the exception, you're special.
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Old 12-31-2015, 01:15 PM
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ag386, how many FO reserves are available in DFW on 4JAN. Please tell us. Thanks.

P.S. I see you are online. Don't try and hide out. We see you.
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Old 12-31-2015, 01:20 PM
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Don't have an answer, ag386? Big shocker. HUGE surprise.

May 2013 hire? Yeah...we believe you! I hope the mods are watching this.
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Old 12-31-2015, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ag386
Let's go over cold hard facts again in order to get it through to you.

Envoy. 8 plus year upgrade. 16 year flow.
I'm not selling anything to anyone, but you are wrong. 16 years ago the flow was 16 years. 8 years ago the upgrade time was 8 years.

Nobody knows what the flow/upgrade time is today (Rick Wilson included).
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Nobody knows what the flow/upgrade time is today (Rick Wilson included).
Yet, when some question that very claim, it is labeled as "Envoy bashing", either overt or in my case, "veiled" (...and not the skiing location).
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Finally. You are showing signs that you accept 2.5 year upgrades aren't going to happen. I happen to agree on this point. It's pretty sad isn't it? Both PDT and PSA have sub 1 year upgrades and Envoy is still 8 plus. Yes, it's going to come down. Maybe a 4 or 5 year upgrade eventually. It's still pathetic though with the low end pay scales we have.

I have NEVER said they were a sure thing. I have said they were POSSIBLE.

F in reading comprehension.

I have ALWAYS said there are hurdles that need to be overcome. They have not made the correct maneuvers yet, IMO, to make their predicted future happen. But if it feeds your troll complex any time I disagree with you or post a positive about ENY knock yourself out.
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