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Old 12-06-2020, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by THKooj
The "science" is all over the place with this and nobody really knows. I already gave you a percentage straight from the CDC website that totals deaths with those who have no comorbidities or are not over age 70.

Check out the "science." The Philippines had one of the most aggressive lockdowns in the world. Sweden was at the other side of the lockdowns with basically, continue life as usual and protect those that are elderly or have conditions. The Philippines actually fared worse.

A Tale of Two Lockdowns: Sweden vs. the Philippines | RealClearMarkets

Maybe YOU should do a little more research before just basing it on a "coupla cases" that you personally encountered. THAT is not representative of anything except an emotional response. With your judgment here, you really shouldn't be flying planes. I might suggest returning to your former career.
I cringe at the thought of bringing you out of hiding, but I just can't resist pointing out once again just how wrong you are about all your perceived expertise on various subject matters. This one is especially nice because your post aged about two days before being completely blown away.

Pancevski, B. (2020, December 6). Long a Holdout From Covid-19 Restrictions, Sweden Ends Its Pandemic Experiment. WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/articles/long-a-...pos1]Pancevski, B. (2020, December 6). Long a Holdout From Covid-19 Restrictions, Sweden Ends Its Pandemic Experiment. WSJ. https://www.wsj.com/articles/long-a-...=hp_listb_pos1

https://www.wsj.com/articles/long-a-...=hp_listb_pos1
Some interesting quotes I found.
"After a late autumn surge in infections led to rising hospitalizations and deaths, the government has abandoned its attempt—unique among Western nations—to combat the pandemic through voluntary measures."

"Admirers of the Swedish way as far as the U.S. hailed its benefit to the economy and its respect for fundamental freedoms. Critics called it a gamble with human lives, especially those of the most vulnerable. With its shift in strategy, the government is now siding with those advocating at least some mandatory restrictions."

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all aimed at preventing the country’s health system from being swamped by patients and capping what is already among the highest per capita death tolls in the world."

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with total Covid-19-related deaths reaching almost 700 per million inhabitants, infections growing exponentially and hospital wards filling up, the government made a U-turn."

"Authorities chose a strategy totally different to the rest of Europe, and because of it the country has suffered a lot in the first wave,” said Piotr Nowak, a physician working with Covid-19 patients at the Karolinska University Hospital in Stockholm. “We have no idea how they failed to predict the second wave."

"Last week Sweden’s total coronavirus death count crossed 7,000. Neighboring Denmark, Finland, and Norway, all similar-sized countries, have recorded since the start of the pandemic 878, 415, and 354 deaths respectively. For the first time since World War II, Sweden’s neighbors have
closed their borders with the country."

"Sweden’s death rate remains an outlier among its neighbors, and Dr. Tegnell acknowledged in late November that the new surge in infections showed there was “no sign” of herd immunity in the country."

"Sweden’s laissez-faire pandemic strategy has
failed to deliver the economic benefits its proponents had predicted. In the first half of the year, Sweden’s gross domestic product fell by 8.5% and unemployment is projected to rise to nearly 10% in the beginning of 2021, according to the central bank and several economic institutes."

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Businesses such as restaurants, hotels, and retail outfits are facing a wave of closures; unlike in the rest of Europe, where governments coupled restrictions with a generous stimulus, Swedish authorities have offered comparatively less support to businesses since they didn’t impose closures.

“This is worse than a lockdown and it has been a catastrophic year for everyone in the business: they haven’t closed us so they don’t give us any substantial support, yet they say to people ‘don’t go to restaurants’,” said Jonas Hamlund, who was forced to close one of his two restaurants in the coastal city of Sundsvall, laying off 30 people."

"Countries that had mandatory restrictions have done better than us"

"We like to think of ourselves as being very rational and pragmatic,” Mr. Calmfors, the economist, said. Yet for months, he added, authorities persisted in their approach despite mounting evidence that it was failing. “I can’t recognize my country anymore."

So, sorry to have to link them all like that, I sincerely encourage everyone to actually read the whole thing, but I felt it was needed so that you couldn't come back with another one of your ignorant statements. Sweden has essentially been proven wrong, in virtually all aspects. They have one of the highest death rates per capita, their economy is failing and projected to get worse and herd immunity is clearly not anywhere near to being a thing.

Now, please move on and stop coming here acting like you know anything. Given you told me to stop flying airplanes due to my judgment, I suppose it is time for you to hang up your hat and go back to your previous career, given how your judgment is clearly the one lacking. Bye Bye now!
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Old 12-10-2020, 11:28 AM
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There’s a picture going around of 043 in the grass at Dfw. Any idea what happened? Thankfully it doesn’t look like anyone was hurt and minimal -if any- damage.
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Old 12-10-2020, 12:44 PM
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Im told they shut down 2 before the APU was completely up and running. Lost brakes and NWS. Just what I’ve heard nothing official until it is, of course.
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Old 12-10-2020, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by TexAg11
Im told they shut down 2 before the APU was completely up and running. Lost brakes and NWS. Just what I’ve heard nothing official until it is, of course.
Hey who needs brakes when you have grass to stop you
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Old 12-10-2020, 03:25 PM
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Hey who needs brakes when you have grass to stop you
Cheap emas
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Old 12-10-2020, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TexAg11
Im told they shut down 2 before the APU was completely up and running. Lost brakes and NWS. Just what I’ve heard nothing official until it is, of course.
A definite possibility.
Why this isn’t stressed more in training as a no no is beyond me. I rarely shut one down on taxi in unless we’re in for a long gate hold. NEVER shut down an engine until after the APU is online.
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Old 12-10-2020, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleJetBoss
A definite possibility.
Why this isn’t stressed more in training as a no no is beyond me. I rarely shut one down on taxi in unless we’re in for a long gate hold. NEVER shut down an engine until after the APU is online.
175 is a slow thinker, usually combined with a hard transfer followed by multiple EICAS messages. You still have the Emergency brake available to you.
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Old 12-10-2020, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Finessed
175 is a slow thinker, usually combined with a hard transfer followed by multiple EICAS messages. You still have the Emergency brake available to you.
E brake does no good in the heat of the moment. By the time you think “WTF? Oh SH!T!” Chances are that you’re already in a bad place.
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Old 12-10-2020, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JungleJetBoss
E brake does no good in the heat of the moment. By the time you think “WTF? Oh SH!T!” Chances are that you’re already in a bad place.
It does plenty of good if you have good system logic knowledge and more importantly comprehend the moment instead of asking why you’re not receiving feedback from the nose wheel steering. I had multiple hard transfers occur while I was driving the 175 to the gate. First I always delayed having the FO shutdown number 2 until nearing the gate (slowing down) with APU up 2 mins ago, still had some unwanted results. The emergency brake works well, and can be used “supposedly” for six applications.
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Old 12-10-2020, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Finessed
It does plenty of good if you have good system logic knowledge and more importantly comprehend the moment instead of asking why you’re not receiving feedback from the nose wheel steering. I had multiple hard transfers occur while I was driving the 175 to the gate. First I always delayed having the FO shutdown number 2 until nearing the gate (slowing down) with APU up 2 mins ago, still had some unwanted results. The emergency brake works well, and can be used “supposedly” for six applications.
Neither one of us was there so it’s easy to say “I would’ve/wouldn’t have...”
Also this is still pure speculation on what occurred until the facts are published.
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