New Envoy Information
11-21-2016, 03:01 AM
#5961
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 366
Wow! Just confirmed this! Wouldn't have believed this myself if I didn't see it with my own two eyes. We'll see if this was a fluke because of December, but currently reserve time at envoy is less than a month.
11-21-2016, 05:49 AM
#5962
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Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 854
Yeah, this is not a good thing. This is a telling example of how absolutely awful our lines are. Because reserve is terrible here, so think about what the lines are like if 50+ FOs would rather do reserve than fly them. This is a new low. Welcome to envoy.
11-21-2016, 06:28 AM
#5963
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 178
What time do the lines typically start and end? Potentially commutable on either one end or the other depending on your location?
Thanks
11-21-2016, 07:59 AM
#5965
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
Well reserve in Chicago only has about 27 FOs for December. So Get ready for a creative month from the overlords at CS.
11-21-2016, 08:25 AM
#5966
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 92
DFW 175 guys holding lines after a couple of weeks off IOE. Reserve list is replenished quickly though as a chunk at a time are coming online. 4/3 on, 2/3 off, pretty commutable even for the most junior lines. 85 hours credit. 2-3 legs per day, 4 here and there.
11-21-2016, 10:23 AM
#5967
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 290
^^^^^This. And it will continue like this indefinitely. With 300 in the pipeline and pool and hiring upwards of 50 per month, you'll continue to see movement. The 2.5/5.5 is real.
11-21-2016, 11:24 AM
#5968
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Position: Violin on the Envoy-tanic
Posts: 175
11-21-2016, 11:38 AM
#5969
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
It's good to see reserve time dropping. It does speak to the schedules though. It used to be 4 on 3 off was the norm and there were a good chunk of 3 on 4 off lines too. Now we are seeing way way too many 4 on 2 off lines. I think they are shooting themselves in the foot with these lines. Nobody will be available to pick up OT as a result of this and we are short on reserves so December is going to be a scheduling nightmare. When a winter storm (flurries) rolls through I bet we see a ton of cancellations because all the reserves will already be busy doing stuff people would have picked up as OT in a better scheduled month.
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