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10-14-2016, 01:50 PM
#5281
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Joined APC: Apr 2012
Position: E-175 CA
Posts: 339
How many first officers are there for the CR7? By the time I start in January, the 175 will be offered up again, but commuting from GRR seems like it would be better off to select an older plane with first officers who are upgrading off of it, and an easier commute with 14 flights to ORD and 3 to MDW per day, as opposed to a newer plane that won't have upgrades coming for at least two more years and only 3 flights to DFW. Am I wrong in thinking that the CR7 is a better option? Shiny new jets are nice, but QOL on the CR7 seems like it would be better.
10-14-2016, 02:31 PM
#5282
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: middle seat in the back
Posts: 232
How many first officers are there for the CR7? By the time I start in January, the 175 will be offered up again, but commuting from GRR seems like it would be better off to select an older plane with first officers who are upgrading off of it, and an easier commute with 14 flights to ORD and 3 to MDW per day, as opposed to a newer plane that won't have upgrades coming for at least two more years and only 3 flights to DFW. Am I wrong in thinking that the CR7 is a better option? Shiny new jets are nice, but QOL on the CR7 seems like it would be better.
10-14-2016, 02:52 PM
#5283
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
10-14-2016, 03:50 PM
#5284
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 687
10-14-2016, 04:06 PM
#5285
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Joined APC: Oct 2016
Position: Main Cabin
Posts: 22
I'm taller than that. Height is a non issue in the cockpit. I have flown the 145, CRJ, and 175.
The seats and pedals adjust.. complete non issue once seated on any of them. 145 is the easiest to get in and out of since the seat slides sideways and back, CRJ second easiest, and 175 is a pain to get into the seat. The stupid yoke is back into the seat which doesn't slide back far enough so you have to push the yoke forward forward while crawling in. It is an inconvenience for literally about 10-20 seconds total of your day. Who cares really. Personally, I'd like to take a screwdriver and take out the seat adjustment limiter block they rigged in there so it would let the seat come back further like it is designed to do but maintenance would likely flip out. So I just deal with it. Once in the seat it's fine.
Now in the back? All of them are uncomfortable as hell for a tall person, the 145 is miserable. Mainline is nearly just as bad though with the new AA 737 being the worst of all time.
The seats and pedals adjust.. complete non issue once seated on any of them. 145 is the easiest to get in and out of since the seat slides sideways and back, CRJ second easiest, and 175 is a pain to get into the seat. The stupid yoke is back into the seat which doesn't slide back far enough so you have to push the yoke forward forward while crawling in. It is an inconvenience for literally about 10-20 seconds total of your day. Who cares really. Personally, I'd like to take a screwdriver and take out the seat adjustment limiter block they rigged in there so it would let the seat come back further like it is designed to do but maintenance would likely flip out. So I just deal with it. Once in the seat it's fine.
Now in the back? All of them are uncomfortable as hell for a tall person, the 145 is miserable. Mainline is nearly just as bad though with the new AA 737 being the worst of all time.
Eh enough about cruddy FAs, every airline has some.
Was it the seat panning forwards that was the problem? I was excitiled to try that out, I knew Cathay had similar seats, and I'm a massive Cathay fangirl, but having no seat in front of me kinda didn't give me the proper experience.
As for the CFI program, perhaps I'll contact Envoy directly. Response may be a bit biased but since I'm heavily leaning towards it I'll want to know as much as I can about it.
Also sorry if I'm droning on a bit about off-topic stuff, if it's inappropriate, just tell me to shut up and get back on topic.
10-14-2016, 08:18 PM
#5288
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Position: newYORK
Posts: 114
upgrade than potential new hires choosing the "older" jets!!!
GRR to ORD is a much better option, than holding out for that 175 in dfw!
enjoy
10-14-2016, 10:48 PM
#5289
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,547
...again, this is misinformation. just because the 175 is a newer plane, it doesn't mean you or anyone recently hired will have a faster
upgrade than potential new hires choosing the "older" jets!!!
GRR to ORD is a much better option, than holding out for that 175 in dfw!
enjoy
upgrade than potential new hires choosing the "older" jets!!!
GRR to ORD is a much better option, than holding out for that 175 in dfw!
enjoy
10-15-2016, 05:48 AM
#5290
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Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Pawn
Posts: 1,138
Not what he meant. What he's saying is that the upward movement from relatively junior to relatively senior on that jet should be faster due to the more senior FO's who fly it upgrading up and out. Senior FO's moving up and out means upward movement up the FO list on that jet, leading to potentially better quality of life.
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