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10-13-2016, 06:35 PM
#5271
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My bad. I'm still learning the system. I only flew Part 135 for a year and had spent maybe a couple weeks discussing the 121 lifestyle before I got laid off. My knowledge level of the ins and outs of the daily life as a 121 pilot is minimal, unfortunately. Thanks for the heads up. That does make more sense.
10-13-2016, 07:12 PM
#5272
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My bad. I'm still learning the system. I only flew Part 135 for a year and had spent maybe a couple weeks discussing the 121 lifestyle before I got laid off. My knowledge level of the ins and outs of the daily life as a 121 pilot is minimal, unfortunately. Thanks for the heads up. That does make more sense.
10-13-2016, 07:19 PM
#5273
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10-14-2016, 06:14 AM
#5274
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10-14-2016, 08:11 AM
#5275
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Also a question for taller pilots (6'+
how do you fit into the 145? The one time I've flown on one as a passenger I had to pretty much crawl down the aisle into my seat, fortunately I was on the left side of the aircraft and didn't have an overhead bin right above me or I may have had to slouch forwards quite a bit. I'd imagine the cockpit would be a tight fit. The CRJ is a tight fit too but it's just a stoop rather than nearly a crawl.
how do you fit into the 145? The one time I've flown on one as a passenger I had to pretty much crawl down the aisle into my seat, fortunately I was on the left side of the aircraft and didn't have an overhead bin right above me or I may have had to slouch forwards quite a bit. I'd imagine the cockpit would be a tight fit. The CRJ is a tight fit too but it's just a stoop rather than nearly a crawl. Once in the seat it's adjustable enough to be comfortable, but it ends up being pretty close to the floor, so my knees end up kinda high. The pedals go far enough forward that it's not uncomfortable hand flying. On longer legs I can run the seat all the way back (have to unrecline first) and then stretch my legs pretty well, or once most of the way back can raise the seat for a more normal seating position. Never been in the front of a 145, but the back is pretty painful for me. I'm sure you can relate.
10-14-2016, 09:09 AM
#5276
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I'm taller than that. Height is a non issue in the cockpit. I have flown the 145, CRJ, and 175.
The seats and pedals adjust.. complete non issue once seated on any of them. 145 is the easiest to get in and out of since the seat slides sideways and back, CRJ second easiest, and 175 is a pain to get into the seat. The stupid yoke is back into the seat which doesn't slide back far enough so you have to push the yoke forward forward while crawling in. It is an inconvenience for literally about 10-20 seconds total of your day. Who cares really. Personally, I'd like to take a screwdriver and take out the seat adjustment limiter block they rigged in there so it would let the seat come back further like it is designed to do but maintenance would likely flip out. So I just deal with it. Once in the seat it's fine.
Now in the back? All of them are uncomfortable as hell for a tall person, the 145 is miserable. Mainline is nearly just as bad though with the new AA 737 being the worst of all time.
The seats and pedals adjust.. complete non issue once seated on any of them. 145 is the easiest to get in and out of since the seat slides sideways and back, CRJ second easiest, and 175 is a pain to get into the seat. The stupid yoke is back into the seat which doesn't slide back far enough so you have to push the yoke forward forward while crawling in. It is an inconvenience for literally about 10-20 seconds total of your day. Who cares really. Personally, I'd like to take a screwdriver and take out the seat adjustment limiter block they rigged in there so it would let the seat come back further like it is designed to do but maintenance would likely flip out. So I just deal with it. Once in the seat it's fine.
Now in the back? All of them are uncomfortable as hell for a tall person, the 145 is miserable. Mainline is nearly just as bad though with the new AA 737 being the worst of all time.
10-14-2016, 10:10 AM
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Our class got it by day 4 of indoc back in August.
10-14-2016, 11:40 AM
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How many first officers are there for the CR7? By the time I start in January, the 175 will be offered up again, but commuting from GRR seems like it would be better off to select an older plane with first officers who are upgrading off of it, and an easier commute with 14 flights to ORD and 3 to MDW per day, as opposed to a newer plane that won't have upgrades coming for at least two more years and only 3 flights to DFW. Am I wrong in thinking that the CR7 is a better option? Shiny new jets are nice, but QOL on the CR7 seems like it would be better.
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