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09-01-2016, 06:58 PM
#4751
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 540
I don't want to start any rumors or ignite any fires over this...the best thing to do is what you have already done. Contact your reps or someone in the union and ask them.
But as far as I know, what you heard is correct. There was someone who was abusing FMLA and *possibly* working a second job while out on leave.
He was asked about it, denied it, asked about it again, denied it again, then confronted with pictures that proved what he was being accused of. I don't know all the details, so I won't speculate...but that's the ballpark. The company had reason to believe he was abusing FMLA and turns out they were correct.
Speaking as someone who has taken FMLA multiple times during my years at Eagle/Envoy...I have to say that if true, this guy is a jack wagon...and I'm only calling him that because the swear filter won't let me call him what he actually is. 99% of us are honest and actually need FMLA from time to time for actual reasons such as the birth of a child. Then along comes this guy, abuses the system, lies about it, and in the process makes all of us look bad. Screw him.
But no...the company is not paying money to have a team of PIs track everyone who calls out sick. Goes to show that if you write it on the internet people will believe just about anything.
But as far as I know, what you heard is correct. There was someone who was abusing FMLA and *possibly* working a second job while out on leave.
He was asked about it, denied it, asked about it again, denied it again, then confronted with pictures that proved what he was being accused of. I don't know all the details, so I won't speculate...but that's the ballpark. The company had reason to believe he was abusing FMLA and turns out they were correct.
Speaking as someone who has taken FMLA multiple times during my years at Eagle/Envoy...I have to say that if true, this guy is a jack wagon...and I'm only calling him that because the swear filter won't let me call him what he actually is. 99% of us are honest and actually need FMLA from time to time for actual reasons such as the birth of a child. Then along comes this guy, abuses the system, lies about it, and in the process makes all of us look bad. Screw him.
But no...the company is not paying money to have a team of PIs track everyone who calls out sick. Goes to show that if you write it on the internet people will believe just about anything.
09-01-2016, 08:22 PM
#4753
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Joined APC: Dec 2013
Posts: 276
You are only a victim if you chose to be a victim.
Most victims are idiots who walk around with their heads down watching their phones. Or, they are just little ****
Grow a pair, learn to shoot, carry a weapon to protect yourself... and wear some body armor... you'll be fine.
If you choose to be a sheep... the wolves will eat you.
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 09-02-2016 at 02:47 PM. Reason: TOU
09-01-2016, 08:55 PM
#4754
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
Not to mention this is hook, line and sinker fear mongering. If you watch certain types of news outlets (not starting anything political, here) you're going to see a armed thug around every corner. Show some reason and look for a decent area and use good SI and you're not in any more danger than the rest of us.
09-01-2016, 10:39 PM
#4755
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Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Capt
Posts: 3,215
You are only a victim if you chose to be a victim.
Most victims are idiots who walk around with their heads down watching their phones. Or, they are just little ***
Grow a pair, learn to shoot, carry a weapon to protect yourself... and wear some body armor... you'll be fine.
If you choose to be a sheep... the wolves will eat you.
Most victims are idiots who walk around with their heads down watching their phones. Or, they are just little ***
Grow a pair, learn to shoot, carry a weapon to protect yourself... and wear some body armor... you'll be fine.
If you choose to be a sheep... the wolves will eat you.
Gas leak in the building you are in.
Fall off a ladder.
Accidental drowning.
Part fails on your car and you crash.
Something falls on you and kills you.
There are a MILLION ways to die that you have NO CONTROL of.
All the cops killed in Dallas were trained, and carried a weapon. Maybe they even had body armour.
You are deluding yourself to think you can keep yourself and your family safe from everything.
No one, no politician, or anyone else, can keep you safe.
If you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, it is over.
Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 09-02-2016 at 02:48 PM.
09-02-2016, 06:58 AM
#4759
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 667
We are well below Mesa, they're happy(for some reason), quick upgrades, and small gains in flying. We are opposite.
09-02-2016, 07:01 AM
#4760
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 501
You're the one who started this baseless rumor on Eagle Lounge...only got 1 reply all day, and so now you are coming over here hoping to start more crap?
Let me ask you what I should have asked you on Eagle Lounge: do you have any proof beyond hearsay? You "heard" this and "heard" that....great. Any proof? Any word from the union? Have you contacted a single rep? A single P2P person? Did the thought that firing people for going out on military leave sounding absurd ever cross your mind?
Then again, you are part of the same group that actually believed the company was sending out private investigators to follow EACH AND EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL pilot who called out sick. Do you also want to buy some land I have for sale in Tonga?
Once again, did you ever get any proof of the private investigator rumor? Did it ever occur to you that it was one individual who was abusing the FMLA system who was caught red handed? Again, did you ever ask the union about it? Because I sure did. And all this cloak and dagger tales from the interwebz was loony tunes.
And now here we go again. You didn't get the attention you crave on Eagle Lounge so you are hoping to get it here. Well...you have the full undivided attention of at least one very envious Piedmont pilot who lurks in Envoy threads. Ask him how he is liking our oldest E-145s from the 90s...
*Edit: Ok..maybe it wasn't you on eagle lounge. Just checked and it's similar usernames, but slightly different...but the rest of the post stands.
Let me ask you what I should have asked you on Eagle Lounge: do you have any proof beyond hearsay? You "heard" this and "heard" that....great. Any proof? Any word from the union? Have you contacted a single rep? A single P2P person? Did the thought that firing people for going out on military leave sounding absurd ever cross your mind?
Then again, you are part of the same group that actually believed the company was sending out private investigators to follow EACH AND EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL pilot who called out sick. Do you also want to buy some land I have for sale in Tonga?
Once again, did you ever get any proof of the private investigator rumor? Did it ever occur to you that it was one individual who was abusing the FMLA system who was caught red handed? Again, did you ever ask the union about it? Because I sure did. And all this cloak and dagger tales from the interwebz was loony tunes.
And now here we go again. You didn't get the attention you crave on Eagle Lounge so you are hoping to get it here. Well...you have the full undivided attention of at least one very envious Piedmont pilot who lurks in Envoy threads. Ask him how he is liking our oldest E-145s from the 90s...
*Edit: Ok..maybe it wasn't you on eagle lounge. Just checked and it's similar usernames, but slightly different...but the rest of the post stands.
Whoa, whoa, whoa mister ****. I have no idea what you are talking about. I was just asking a question. Why don't you go accuse the real person for bringing this up? Instead, why don't you back *** off? I want to know if I need to be worried about keeping my job or not.
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Last edited by UAL T38 Phlyer; 09-02-2016 at 02:54 PM. Reason: TOU
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