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Old 08-31-2016, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AcesHigh
I was hoping for DFW Base, but the card's didn't pan out that way so I opted for ORD 145.

I will say this about Chicago.

I visited there for the first time last year. I absolutely loved it. Of course you'll have your hood's, every city has them.

But on the upside, it's a youthful city, plenty to do, a great art district and people were relatively friendly.

I have friends that live in Chicago (Downtown, Southside) and not everywhere in Chicago is a bad place to live.

My suggestion, if you can't afford it on your own, find a classmate and see if they want to room with you. There's always a way man.

Another thing you gotta remember is that this is the aviation regional industry man, things can change at the drop of the hat.

You gotta go into it thinking that as well so you're prepared and not let down.
The cost of living in ORD is just so high. How can a FO afford to live there and actually have any money left over for things like...food?
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Old 08-31-2016, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
The cost of living in ORD is just so high. How can a FO afford to live there and actually have any money left over for things like...food?

What's your budget like for an apartment? A good friend of mine who lives there found me a some nice 1BR apartments close to the train lines NOT in the hood from anywhere between 7-850.

Sometimes with full or partial utilities included.
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Old 08-31-2016, 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by inky13
For the visual people, this is the chart recruitment uses in a marketing brochure:
Attachment 2931

EDIT: Can't seem to find a way to attach the high resolution version. Standby 1...

RE-EDIT: Attached as .pdf
Nice chart. Much prettier than my typing
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Old 08-31-2016, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob12345
Big Thanks for the replies, helps for a little perspective.



My thing is, if I'm gonna commute, I gotta live in the here and now, so I'll have to commute for more money. I realize now a lot of the negativity at this outfit, may be because it was well earned.


That's understandable. When I started at Eagle, it was one of the "good" regionals. They've fallen behind, so I can't say I'd make the same decision today.


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Old 08-31-2016, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by leica typ240
...wow, just wow! pretty sure it's not your phone's fault either!!!



STOP WHINING - if you want QOL, find a different career!

no base is ever GUARANTEED! base assignments come and go via displacements or worse, base closures!!!


...start looking at your other two "DFW" options, especially MESA - entitled millennial
I'm sick and tired of hearing the entitled millennial ****. This industry is cyclical and they are getting in at a time where bonuses, bases, aircraft choice, and any thing else are being offered to attract new hires. If they want to be more selective about where they go then why is that considered being entitled? The company said they could choose their base and then backed out of it. I would be ****ed off too.

Do I feel bad for the guy hell no. But if I was him I would make sure I wasn't going to get the CRJ and be stuck in ORD for a LONG time with no chance of getting back to DFW.
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Old 08-31-2016, 08:06 PM
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Only ORD in September huh? Im guessing they will be lucky to get 10 in the new hire class for the month.
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Old 09-01-2016, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by E175 Driver
They will tell you what you want to hear. Its just like buying a vehicle.

As long as you are aware of it, you should be fine. Have you check MESA? They have a DFW base with faster upgrades.
Appreciate the recommendation, i would take MESA seriously if they're pay was better. I'm a professional and expect to be paid as such.
This is my 2nd go at entering the industry, I opted out when regionals like Colgan and others were hiring 250hr wet commercial and horrible pay. I didnt do it then I won't do it now. OUR PROFESSION DESERVES BETTER. Regional or not. Livable wages should never be a minimal standard.

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Old 09-01-2016, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by leica typ240
...wow, just wow! pretty sure it's not your phone's fault either!!!



STOP WHINING - if you want QOL, find a different career!

no base is ever GUARANTEED! base assignments come and go via displacements or worse, base closures!!!


...start looking at your other two "DFW" options, especially MESA - entitled millennial
WHO IS THIS GUY/GAL ?

I'm sure you wouldnt say that in person.

You sound insulting, and demeaning. You don't know me or my background in aviaton. You don't know the other poster that mis-spelled a fee words either. I understood his words and point which was the bigger picture. Not a big deal family.

Thanks for advise nontheless. MESA IS NOT AN OPTION. Sure call me a millennial. I guess i could be an old millennial, or begining of that generation. Sure call me entittled since I don't want to settle, like many have in the past for low pay-wages, and poor QOL (i'm not the only one. Sure call us entittled for demanding better). Many chose to interview for certain reasons & now those reasons are gone... Sure I like Envoy and will still consider Envoy.

I DO NOT WANT TO BE A VICTIM, OR MY FAMILY TO BE A VICTIM OF GUN VIOLENCE. FAMILY SAFTY IS IMPORTANT. COST OF LIVING IN CHICAGO IS ALSO HIGH.

No more extra $7K bonus for ORD like others got bothers me also. ENVOY is not offering Endevor/Republic NYC like pay for a high cost of living area either. So I'll be forced to have to consider commuting. I can't plan ahead and won't know how long i'll have to commute.

I know how the industry works. I understand base closures and company needs very very well. I've followed this industry (both regionals and majors) since 2000.

I hope we can all be professionals, mature, and respectful to each other here. Thanks sir.


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Old 09-01-2016, 01:10 AM
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Originally Posted by adspilot
I'm sick and tired of hearing the entitled millennial ****. This industry is cyclical and they are getting in at a time where bonuses, bases, aircraft choice, and any thing else are being offered to attract new hires. If they want to be more selective about where they go then why is that considered being entitled? The company said they could choose their base and then backed out of it. I would be ****ed off too.

Do I feel bad for the guy hell no. But if I was him I would make sure I wasn't going to get the CRJ and be stuck in ORD for a LONG time with no chance of getting back to DFW.
Thank you. I HOPE NOT TO GET STUCK in CRJ. Not here for pitty part, just some answers and perspectives from current Envoy guys/gals.

Very much appreciate the positive feedbacks from everyone both pros and cons! Great group, learning a lot. Please keep it going. I have big career decisions to make. Each post has helped in some way.

Thanks all.

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Old 09-01-2016, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rob12345
Big Thanks for the replies, helps for a little perspective.

My thing is, if I'm gonna commute, I gotta live in the here and now, so I'll have to commute for more money. I realize now a lot of the negativity at this outfit, may be because it was well earned.
Exactly. Same sentiments. Thanks for all the perspectives. Big decisons to make.

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