New Envoy Information
07-31-2016, 04:47 PM
#4273
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Joined APC: Mar 2016
Posts: 122
Ask ole ag386 about how he got fired from Envoy. It's a fun story to say the least.
Hey ag386...want to chime in? Tell everyone about your termination hearing. Tell everyone how you bawled your eyes out in the Chief Pilot's office.
Better yet, tell everyone how you spent the next 2 weeks calling everyone and anyone in ALPA who would take your call, begging them to get your job at Envoy back.
I've seen sour grapes before, but you take the gold prize. You have no one to blame for your termination but yourself. Move on, kid.
In the spirit of moving on, 11 started class today. Congrats to all. That's 22 for the month.
Hey ag386...want to chime in? Tell everyone about your termination hearing. Tell everyone how you bawled your eyes out in the Chief Pilot's office.
Better yet, tell everyone how you spent the next 2 weeks calling everyone and anyone in ALPA who would take your call, begging them to get your job at Envoy back.
I've seen sour grapes before, but you take the gold prize. You have no one to blame for your termination but yourself. Move on, kid.
In the spirit of moving on, 11 started class today. Congrats to all. That's 22 for the month.
07-31-2016, 06:47 PM
#4274
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 179
Upgrade DID NOT drop to 6 years. The junior captain was hired in 2008. That's 8 years ago. Sure, a few 2010 hires have been AWARDED upgrade in the bid, but they are not captains yet; they are still first officers. The 2010 haven't even been to captain training yet.
08-01-2016, 03:26 AM
#4276
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
Don't knock it too hard. What's to prevent the company from offering a 250 pilot upgrade but not putting people in class until 2018? They got the upgrade down to 5.5 years, didn't they? It's just a technicality they don't physically move to the left seat for a year and a half.
I doubt the company would pull a stunt like this, it'd be as transparent as could be.
I doubt the company would pull a stunt like this, it'd be as transparent as could be.
08-01-2016, 05:52 AM
#4277
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 91
Upgrade just dropped to 6 years and by the time it gets to a new hire I would conservatively say 3 years. Flow is projected at 6, not 10. Envoy is a great place to start your career if you're young, are okay with DFW/ORD, and are looking to end up at legacy airline. Nothing is stopping you from applying to Delta, United, FedEx, UPS, Southwest, Alaska, etc; (which guys/girls are leaving for all the time from here) but if they don't call or you don't want to bust your ass and network for that interview, then there's always the flow waiting for you when your time comes.
The flow is projected at 6? How are you going to flow in 6 if you upgrade in 8? Fuzzy math compadre.
08-01-2016, 05:53 AM
#4278
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Joined APC: Aug 2016
Posts: 91
Don't knock it too hard. What's to prevent the company from offering a 250 pilot upgrade but not putting people in class until 2018? They got the upgrade down to 5.5 years, didn't they? It's just a technicality they don't physically move to the left seat for a year and a half.
I doubt the company would pull a stunt like this, it'd be as transparent as could be.
I doubt the company would pull a stunt like this, it'd be as transparent as could be.
08-01-2016, 06:59 AM
#4279
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Joined APC: Jun 2013
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 501
Nah. We're supposed to be happy for what we got. I love the QOL provided by the managers of AAG and Envoy. Nothing like having 8 days at home a month and a spouse that has a boyfriend to help take care of the kid and dog. Divorce you say? That would be nice if it was affordable under our pay.
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08-01-2016, 07:51 AM
#4280
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Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
If you're really that dense where you can't distinguish between what is current and what's a projection then I'm not going to waste time with you. But I think you can, you're just angry at your lot in life for some reason.
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