New Envoy Information
07-31-2016, 07:27 AM
#4261
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: AA A320 FO
Posts: 154
Let them scrutinize me all they want. Who cares? I have done this several times. I need a specific day off, I put in to swap that reserve day with every day off... multiple times... denied denied denied. I put in for a PVD... denied. Fine. I tried everything... Sick.
07-31-2016, 08:12 AM
#4262
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
If you're that unhappy and unwilling to put up with the bs that we're all enduring, then go somewhere else. Or get involved to try and make changes. Crying like a baby on an internet forum makes you look like a weak person and hurts the great reputation that our pilot group has.
07-31-2016, 08:31 AM
#4263
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 540
Why do you love having new-hires? So mgmt can get their bonuses? You're assumption is wrong. If the smart ones would just stay away and not come to this crap-hole to be on reserve for YEARS (then get the absolute worst schedules in the industry when they finally can hold a line) and wait for a 6-8 year upgrade and a fantasy flow to AA.... then maybe, just maybe mgmt might want to improve our conditions.
07-31-2016, 10:24 AM
#4265
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 416
Upgrade just dropped to 6 years and by the time it gets to a new hire I would conservatively say 3 years. Flow is projected at 6, not 10. Envoy is a great place to start your career if you're young, are okay with DFW/ORD, and are looking to end up at legacy airline. Nothing is stopping you from applying to Delta, United, FedEx, UPS, Southwest, Alaska, etc; (which guys/girls are leaving for all the time from here) but if they don't call or you don't want to bust your ass and network for that interview, then there's always the flow waiting for you when your time comes.
07-31-2016, 11:09 AM
#4266
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Hack pilot
Posts: 216
I wonder how much you're going to be complaining when you're getting paid 250k/year to work half the month crossing the pond? I'm not saying I disagree with your gripes, but this career is a marathon and not a sprint.
If you're that unhappy and unwilling to put up with the bs that we're all enduring, then go somewhere else. Or get involved to try and make changes. Crying like a baby on an internet forum makes you look like a weak person and hurts the great reputation that our pilot group has.
If you're that unhappy and unwilling to put up with the bs that we're all enduring, then go somewhere else. Or get involved to try and make changes. Crying like a baby on an internet forum makes you look like a weak person and hurts the great reputation that our pilot group has.
07-31-2016, 12:48 PM
#4268
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2015
Posts: 540
07-31-2016, 01:15 PM
#4269
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2007
Position: Qualified to carry liquids through security.
Posts: 771
How's unemployment? Too bad you're not at allegiant. Quite a nice contract they just signed!
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