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Old 06-13-2016, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
Trying to decide between envoy and Skywest for an ORD base .Any opinions would be great .
Skywest, nobody looking for a job should even consider this place.
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Old 06-14-2016, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
Trying to decide between envoy and Skywest for an ORD base .Any opinions would be great .
Depends on what's important to you.
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Old 06-14-2016, 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Smutter
So doing 4 on 2 off is good? Especially when they're non commutable? So yeah at the end of the month it gets better, but in-between your not home for 2 weeks, yeah sounds great. Tonight's email proved how bad schedules are. I Hear Dic didn't have a chance to let Sam under his desk today, was he busy with you?
Where did I say its good? I just answered the question. Nobody likes 2 days off. Personally I want 20 days off between trips lol. Trip trade if you can and move things to rearrange days off. It is a feature we have. Sometimes you can, sometimes not. I usually can modify some days off. Nobody likes being junior either. Life as an airline pilot......
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Old 06-14-2016, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
My CJO is a couple weeks old , guess it doesn't include the 15k bonus .
Talk to them about it. If you haven't started here yet you probably aren't officially hired yet. You may still be eligible for the 15K.
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Old 06-14-2016, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mistek89
My CJO is a couple weeks old , guess it doesn't include the 15k bonus .
You will probably get it. You can email recruiting and get a concrete answer.
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Old 06-14-2016, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Smutter
Skywest, nobody looking for a job should even consider this place.
Especially for ORD base, you have a lot of options..
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Smutter
Skywest, nobody looking for a job should even consider this place.
You're obviously very upset and emotional about Envoy but to make a blanket statement like that is unrealistic. When it comes to regionals Envoy certainly is not the worst of them all, unlike what many on here make it out to be. Nor is it even close to the best. But let's be fair. Envoy does have some benefits that many other regionals don't provide and now that they're throwing $15k to new hires I would imagine that might make a difference when comparing.

There are too many on here constantly bashing Envoy and most of these posters I would doubt work at Envoy currently or maybe ever have. That's not to say everything is incorrect but it certainly is misleading when characterizing the entirety of the company.
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Old 06-14-2016, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
Where did I say its good? I just answered the question. Nobody likes 2 days off. Personally I want 20 days off between trips lol. Trip trade if you can and move things to rearrange days off. It is a feature we have. Sometimes you can, sometimes not. I usually can modify some days off. Nobody likes being junior either. Life as an airline pilot......
I was hammered, read that way last night
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Old 06-14-2016, 10:28 AM
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Envoy does have some benefits that many other regionals don't provide and now that they're throwing $15k to new hires I would imagine that might make a difference when comparing.
You MIGHT be right, but how long are they gonna stay?
When they're going to experience the schedules, the long time on reserve, and all the small things that destroy you QOL, they'll be discouraged like a lot of people at Envoy. The 15K bonus will not do anything about it.
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Old 06-14-2016, 10:42 AM
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Something to keep in mind if deciding between Skywest and envoy is relative seniority and how quickly you will move up and out. It's no secret that Skywest has been approaching 100/month in hiring while envoy is only about 20ish. Envoy is about 60% the size of Skywest yet is only getting 20% of the amount of new-hires that Skywest is. Both seem to be roughly equal in attrition. What all this means is if things stay the same (huge if) then you would move up the list quicker at envoy. Now I'm not talking about which company will give you better qol or treat you better, I'm talking strictly numbers.

Remember, what's good today isn't what's necessarily good tomorrow. Take a look at PSA, PDT, Republic, and really any regional airline out there. To say Skywest is the place to go is a very broad statement, especially when every month they've hired and you're still building time, 100 new pilots come in ahead of you.
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