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Old 11-24-2015, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
I am doing my due diligence. That's why I am asking the (hopefully honest) guys who fly the line here as opposed to just accepting what the recruiter says as fact. None of it really matters unless I pass the interview, of course, but in the event that I do, I want to know what my options are.

The pay may be better at ENY, and there may be a flow, but if I can't get 1,000 in 11-18 months, there may be other places willing to pay me less to fly me more.
If you don't want to stay or think the grass is greener elsewhere, don't accept the signing bonus. Keep your options open so you can bail out whenever you want. If you get hired and make it to the line you'll have a free type certificate in your pocket and some 121 time which will make you marketable to any other regional you want to go to if Envoy isn't working for you.
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Old 11-25-2015, 11:09 AM
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What's the word with the Chicago crew room incident, anyone there or have information?
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Old 11-25-2015, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by HobGoblin
What's the word with the Chicago crew room incident, anyone there or have information?
They were junior manning an FO.
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Old 11-25-2015, 04:17 PM
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What. When.?

Another reason to not go in that crew room. Full of company suckups.
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Old 11-26-2015, 07:54 AM
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Remember Envoy now has wing mounted engines in their planes again. 👍 Per Envoy FB
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Old 11-26-2015, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by HobGoblin
What's the word with the Chicago crew room incident, anyone there or have information?
A FA misheard a conversation.... Which she then thought there was a pilot with a gun, in the CP office. So she called 911.... And all he|| broke loose. False alarm.

FA is a moron.
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Old 11-26-2015, 11:03 PM
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No, ENY isn't that bad, hope you don't think I was implying that it is. In fact, from all my reading here, ALL regionals suck. It's a tough, low-paying life, to be sure. One would think with the requirement for ATP now in place, pay would have risen commensurate with the required training/time one must put in to get there.

I like the concept of the flow, but not sure I believe the 2.5/6 numbers being tossed around by recruiters. One told me he was a 9-year employee (not sure if he is FO or CA), and he said he IS going to AA soon, but didn't give me a date. So it might be in a month or a year for all I know.

ENY is still one of my top choices, unfortunately a CRJ in ORD is not my favorite choice.

Originally Posted by SkyWago
That amount would be doable if you didn't end up back in long term training quickly. That killed my year, was on track to be around 600ish hours in a year and then got sent to long term on a displacement.

ENY isn't that bad, there have been a lot of us here and stuck for way too long and our patience is starting to wear. Is it gonna get better? Probably. Just hard to get most of us inside to believe the numbers being thrown out there based on what we have already been through.
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
I like the concept of the flow, but not sure I believe the 2.5/6 numbers being tossed around by recruiters. One told me he was a 9-year employee (not sure if he is FO or CA), and he said he IS going to AA soon, but didn't give me a date. So it might be in a month or a year for all I know.
The next ENY Flow Through pilot to start at AA was hired in July 1999. Between that guy and a January 2006 hire is ~550 seniority numbers. Rough math says it'll be ~18 mths.
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Old 11-27-2015, 06:26 AM
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The next ENY Flow Through pilot to start at AA was hired in July 1999. Between that guy and a January 2006 hire is ~550 seniority numbers. Rough math says it'll be ~18 mths.
So 30 upgrades a month from now until then to keep a balance of captains, especially since envoy has quit shrinking and new planes are on property. Where are the vacancies?
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Old 11-27-2015, 05:47 PM
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So 30 upgrades a month from now until then to keep a balance...

No. We are fat on personnel. I don't know exactly how many are projected to be needed, but we definitely don't need 30 upgrades a month. How many we need is up to management's magic number, and we don't know what that number is. It must currently be low, because they don't seem to be in much of a hurry to upgrade to meet demand.
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