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Old 11-20-2015, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Realtalk
So when does the 2.5 year/6 year timer start, seems like people have been saying this for a now.

So now its 1.5/5 righhhtttttt?
Ric's letter about 2.5/6 came out about 6 months ago. Personally I think it will be correct or at least be very close.
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Old 11-20-2015, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
Watching eaglefly and cujo664 argue is like watching two bums fight...highly amusing! And I'm still convinced 664 is eaglefly's alter ego
You're not the only one who gets amusement here. The CJC snake oil lubed strokefest has its mirth as well. Not as astonishing as watching the current crop of Envoyeurs on EL rip each other to pieces though. That's like a hienous car crash you don't want to watch, but can't look away from, especially with the management stooges who have obviously infiltrated their own pilot group like a trojan horse.

I'm still convinced you're a CLR minion.
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Old 11-20-2015, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
Ric's letter about 2.5/6 came out about 6 months ago. Personally I think it will be correct or at least be very close.
Apparently, the same source confirmed the 205 upgrades for 2016. The 750-800 upgrades for 2017 and the first half of 2018 will definately be something to watch, ESPECIALLY since Envoy would have to hire an equivalent number of new-hires over the same period or train 1500-1600 pilots (plus some transitions to different fleet types) to maintain present size.

Sorry, fuzzy math like that doesn't pass the sniff test. There's a rotten smell about all this, I'm afraid.
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I'm still convinced you're a CLR minion.
You think I'm a CLR minion because I express my opinion? Got it. If your next question is why do I think you and Cujo664 are the same person, it's because your argument about this thread being filled with envoy salespeople has proven to be false, so you've created one. 664 is a dummy who is trying to make educated predictions come across as fact. Newsflash...HE'S THE ONLY ONE SAYING THAT. As I've said before, I've ran the numbers and believe that the 2.5/6, or at least very close to it, is realistic. I'm sorry you don't agree with that but I am a simple line pilot expressing my opinion on the movement that is likely to happen here in the very near future, take it as you wish.
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Old 11-20-2015, 09:57 PM
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So I guess the mods of this website have officially checked out. Blatant attempts to hijack threads are allowed now and go unpunished. This website is a mess.
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Old 11-21-2015, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Captainobvious
Hello,

If you are looking to apply at Endeavor air it's a great time to Join the company. Endeavor recently started hiring approximately 40 pilots per month and are looking to increase that number to 60 pilots per month starting in January/ February of 2016. Plans were recently mentioned to bring multiple CRJ 200’s back onto the property along with 350 upgrades in 2016. This would cause our already fast paced seniority list movement to become even faster as we bring more and more pilots onto property. Endeavor currently pays a $20,000 per year retention bonus, one third of which is paid out every 4 months, and they have a guaranteed interview program with Delta airlines for new hires. Please PM me if you’d like additional details about Endeavor and would like a possible referral. I would be happy to assist you with the application process and answer any questions you may have. Thanks!
I am not a grammar natzy but when you go to your Delta Air Lines interview make sure you spell their name correctly!
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Old 11-21-2015, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by sublime259
You think I'm a CLR minion because I express my opinion?
Why not ?

You vilify me in multiple ways including erroneously considering me somone else. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If you want to believe the "numbers", knock yourself senseless, but no one is going to convince me Envoy is going to upgrade 750-800 F/O's between January 2017 and mid-2018, hire another 750-800 during that period or train 1500-1600 total long-terms plus types and IOE during that period, all if which is required with 205 upgrades in 2016 and meeting a 2.5 year upgrade for a new-hire today.

If that upsets you, Xin Loi.
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Old 11-21-2015, 06:25 AM
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I am not a grammar natzy but when you go to your Delta Air Lines interview make sure you spell their name correctly!

Natzy? Check it yourself, lol.
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Old 11-21-2015, 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
There you go MikeFox, someone claiming hard numbers without acknowledging the barriers. Of course, you did say no one would do this with any sense and thus we must agree then this character is bankrupt of that quality, yes ?

There you go again. Taking something all of us know to be junk and trying to spin it as fact. We all know the differences between the two Cujo's.
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Old 11-21-2015, 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
There you go again. Taking something all of us know to be junk and trying to spin it as fact. We all know the differences between the two Cujo's.
I'm not sure what differences you are talking about but regardless, the numbers speak for themselves. Now looking like 250 upgrades next year instead of 205. That right there brings 2.5/6 to reality. Like some on here are alluding to, we have no need for growth for 2.5/6 to occur.

Of course if growth happens, you are only looking at 2.5/6 going down further. 2/4 is a real possibility. Think about those additional 90 175 frames. That's approximately 450 CA slots. Realistically, a new hire at Eagle could complete IOE, go straight to CA class and flow. All inside 2 years. Think about that when you detractors are saying we are NOT Anerican Airlines pilots. I've got news for you. We are.

AAG is positioning Envoy to be THE premiere gateway into AA. The crown jewel if you will. If you aren't ENY, PDT or friends and family. You ain't getting in.

So far they've lived up to their promises and everything is happening as planned. This isn't AMR management anymore. And that's why the Envoy interview is so tough now. You are hired as an AA pilot. From Day One.

Let's see what 2016 looks like when block hours are assigned. Everyone at Envoy will be pleasantly surprised.
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