Shiner

Depends on your seniority on the list. I was about 70% when they started the pre-assigned RAP B.S. I was always able to proffer out of it (usually a PM ready shift) or get a later trip.

It also matters where you commute from. I live in a very commutable city with 12-14 flights to DFW and ORD per day. I've never had to fly in a day early or stay a day late.

Commuting to reserve ain't no picnic, but it's not the worst thing in the world either.

As a junior line holder, I have averaged 13 days off.

SkyWago

I agree, commuting isn't bad depending on the city. MCO-JFK/LGA was fairly easy and painless. MCO-DFW was never going to happen, even for a jumpseat. I ended up moving and has made a world of a difference.

Now even though scheduled 11 days off, if i pick up OT flying maybe 9/10 days off that month but some months i can wiggle 13-15 days off if i don't get used on a given day.

RyanP

RE: American Flow-through Update

I’m pleased to report that 119 Envoy Captains have taken advantage of our industry-leading flow-through agreement with American Airlines during the first four months of 2016. That’s about the same number of pilots who flowed over during the entire last year! Envoy has now successfully placed 877 pilots with American, representing 65% of all new hires since 2010.
As we look ahead, American expects to see an increase in the number of recalls that they will be processing from their furloughed pilot ranks. As a result, American will continue to need Envoy pilots every month for the remainder of the year, but it is highly unlikely that it will continue at the previous rate of 30 per month. We have not yet received the final flow numbers for May, but American anticipates that for the next four months, classes will be made up only of recalls and wholly-owned regional pilots – no off-the-street new hires. Envoy will represent at a minimum 50% of these wholly-owned pilots.
This flow-through, coupled with our recent announcements of additional flying for American that will grow our fleet in 2016, continues to mean that we will still offer more than 200 new Captain upgrade opportunities and hire more than 300 new pilots here at Envoy. Our models continue to support that a pilot joining Envoy today is currently projected to upgrade to Captain in two and a half years – and flow to American in a little over five years from hire.

Attachment: Envoy Historical Flow Table – April 2016


Best Regards,

Captain Ric Wilson
Vice President – Flight Operations

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RyanP

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Eaglepilot84

Throw this one straight in the rumor bucket, but there is currently talk of the -900's that were supposed to be going to PSA, coming to envoy.

Bring on the haters...

eaglefly

Has any "model" of the 2.5 year upgrade claim been made available to Envoy pilots ? Perhaps I'm missing something but Wilson claims the "previous rate" of 30 flows/month will not be maintained during the recall period, but this model appears to show the 824 rate is actually 20 flows/month (less in 2016). Additionally, the last info I saw showed that Envoy is behind schedule on their hiring if 300 are to be hired this year.

I'm still seeing fuzzy math and unrealized assumptions and projections in this information. It's tough to connect the dots on what is being put out.

eaglefly

Yes, we're all just haters. IMO, there is nothing wrong with this post as you correctly use the term "rumor". Rumors are fun !

Eaglepilot84

Thanks for your golden seal of approval!

Not once have I ever stated anything as fact if it wasn't. I always preface things by saying if something is a rumor, an opinion, or a projection. But anyway, yes, this is 100% a rumor.

eaglefly

I always give credit where credit is due.

N927EV

Oh yeah, they're coming. Along with the 20 -175s being flown by compass. Any day now.