New Envoy Information
03-28-2016, 04:25 PM
#2061
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Which brings the question of just what is it in the "useful information" department that pilots supposedly want ?
What's the pay ?
Ask.
What are the schedules like ?
Ask.
What are the bennies ?
Ask.
What are the domiciles ?
Ask.
Anything that is a known quantity though has already been asked and answered a hundred times aside from being available elsewhere. Want to know rumors, projections and expectations ?
Well, that is more uncertain, subjective and a product of opinion. The opinions will differ and disagreement occurs and that is the fundamental foundation of the typical Envoy thread.
If only it would stay on discussion/debate of the issue, would more useful information be available for consideration. Unfortunately, some simply don't want that.
What's the pay ?
Ask.
What are the schedules like ?
Ask.
What are the bennies ?
Ask.
What are the domiciles ?
Ask.
Anything that is a known quantity though has already been asked and answered a hundred times aside from being available elsewhere. Want to know rumors, projections and expectations ?
Well, that is more uncertain, subjective and a product of opinion. The opinions will differ and disagreement occurs and that is the fundamental foundation of the typical Envoy thread.
If only it would stay on discussion/debate of the issue, would more useful information be available for consideration. Unfortunately, some simply don't want that.
03-28-2016, 05:30 PM
#2062
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Position: Feito no Brasil, CA
Posts: 833
Anything that is a known quantity though has already been asked and answered a hundred times aside from being available elsewhere. Want to know rumors, projections and expectations ?
If only it would stay on discussion/debate of the issue, would more useful information be available for consideration. Unfortunately, some simply don't want that.
Oh, the irony brings me to tears.
03-28-2016, 05:41 PM
#2063
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Emb 170/175 FO
Posts: 272
New Envoy Information
The fraud speaks! What would you know about anything other than conning people?
I came from Mesa. Now I'm at Envoy and my life has improved tremendously. It's not even a close comparison and my only regret is that I didn't leave Mesa for Envoy sooner.
I'm seriously baffled by some of this crap I read on this forum...then I'm reminded that most of it, like Skyvector said comes from people who don't work at Envoy and possibly never have. Like you. That would explain it.
Bottom line is that life is good for me at Envoy. I have many friends from Mesa who are also looking at making the jump and there are more coming from places like Republic. I am friends with a recruiter at Envoy and he tells me the applications have increased "five fold" in the past 2 weeks. His words, not mine.
No Regional is perfect...and having worked at Mesa I can tell you they missed that mark by a country mile. But Envoy is by far the best company I have worked at so far. Period. And I say this as someone who only got the $5,000 bonus as I was hired prior to the recent increase in which I would have received $15,000.
But it doesn't matter. I'm not looking at small short term gains. And I also know that anybody who still believes 1,000 hours PIC is the golden ticket to a major is an idiot who needs to get with the program. This is a long game, and now I'm part of the largest airline in the world with a no interview flow. I'm part of one of their wholly owned companies with the structure to match. I actually feel like I work for a real airline now compared to the frat house crap that was Mesa.
So all you big mouths who don't work at Envoy who just want to talk smack can rest assured your opinions mean squat. Especially from the fraud that is AG386 or whatever he calls himself these days...he has about 6 different screen names by last count and lied about ever working at Envoy in the first place.
I came from Mesa. Now I'm at Envoy and my life has improved tremendously. It's not even a close comparison and my only regret is that I didn't leave Mesa for Envoy sooner.
I'm seriously baffled by some of this crap I read on this forum...then I'm reminded that most of it, like Skyvector said comes from people who don't work at Envoy and possibly never have. Like you. That would explain it.
Bottom line is that life is good for me at Envoy. I have many friends from Mesa who are also looking at making the jump and there are more coming from places like Republic. I am friends with a recruiter at Envoy and he tells me the applications have increased "five fold" in the past 2 weeks. His words, not mine.
No Regional is perfect...and having worked at Mesa I can tell you they missed that mark by a country mile. But Envoy is by far the best company I have worked at so far. Period. And I say this as someone who only got the $5,000 bonus as I was hired prior to the recent increase in which I would have received $15,000.
But it doesn't matter. I'm not looking at small short term gains. And I also know that anybody who still believes 1,000 hours PIC is the golden ticket to a major is an idiot who needs to get with the program. This is a long game, and now I'm part of the largest airline in the world with a no interview flow. I'm part of one of their wholly owned companies with the structure to match. I actually feel like I work for a real airline now compared to the frat house crap that was Mesa.
So all you big mouths who don't work at Envoy who just want to talk smack can rest assured your opinions mean squat. Especially from the fraud that is AG386 or whatever he calls himself these days...he has about 6 different screen names by last count and lied about ever working at Envoy in the first place.
Seriously doubt anyone from RAH is jumping to envoy. RAH had 14 new hires in class this week alone, and once again a handful of them were ex-envoy people. That's pretty much double the most recent envoy new hire class at a place going through bankruptcy... Enough said.
03-28-2016, 05:56 PM
#2065
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2010
Posts: 547
Seriously doubt anyone from RAH is jumping to envoy. RAH had 14 new hires in class this week alone, and once again a handful of them were ex-envoy people. That's pretty much double the most recent envoy new hire class at a place going through bankruptcy... Enough said.
03-28-2016, 05:59 PM
#2066
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: Emb 170/175 FO
Posts: 272
Why would I make it up. Numbers are on the company intranet page. As far as the ex-envoy guys, just have to walk through the training center and say hello to the new guys getting coffee to figure it out.
03-28-2016, 06:37 PM
#2067
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Posts: 894
Seriously doubt anyone from RAH is jumping to envoy. RAH had 14 new hires in class this week alone, and once again a handful of them were ex-envoy people. That's pretty much double the most recent envoy new hire class at a place going through bankruptcy... Enough said.
Nobody from Envoy is dumb enough to go to RAH right now, cancelling everything left and right, during bankruptcy, shedding aircraft and about to stagnate with absolutely nothing to offer over being here. Sure, that is a believable story.
03-28-2016, 06:49 PM
#2068
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 10
Which brings the question of just what is it in the "useful information" department that pilots supposedly want ?
What's the pay ?
Ask.
What are the schedules like ?
I have never seen anyone that likes to read there own writing more than you..
Ask.
What are the bennies ?
Ask.
What are the domiciles ?
Ask.
Anything that is a known quantity though has already been asked and answered a hundred times aside from being available elsewhere. Want to know rumors, projections and expectations ?
Well, that is more uncertain, subjective and a product of opinion. The opinions will differ and disagreement occurs and that is the fundamental foundation of the typical Envoy thread.
If only it would stay on discussion/debate of the issue, would more useful information be available for consideration. Unfortunately, some simply don't want that.
What's the pay ?
Ask.
What are the schedules like ?
I have never seen anyone that likes to read there own writing more than you..
Ask.
What are the bennies ?
Ask.
What are the domiciles ?
Ask.
Anything that is a known quantity though has already been asked and answered a hundred times aside from being available elsewhere. Want to know rumors, projections and expectations ?
Well, that is more uncertain, subjective and a product of opinion. The opinions will differ and disagreement occurs and that is the fundamental foundation of the typical Envoy thread.
If only it would stay on discussion/debate of the issue, would more useful information be available for consideration. Unfortunately, some simply don't want that.
03-28-2016, 07:00 PM
#2069
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 8,350
Gee, yet ANOTHER new poster from Envoy who mimics his hero's inability to discuss issues and only hurl insults. 
But in your case, since you freely admitted on Eaglelounge tonight that your only reason for starting an account here was to "make fun of eaglefly", it's of little surprise. A pretty feeble effort though if I do say so myself. Based on your admission of your motive for coming here, one can truly label you a troll.
I do understand your frustration though along with others in your little fiefdom as unlike Eaglelounge, it seems more difficult to "run off", silence or censor those you disagree with here. Nice try, kid.............but your missile missed it's target.
Better luck next time.
But in your case, since you freely admitted on Eaglelounge tonight that your only reason for starting an account here was to "make fun of eaglefly", it's of little surprise. A pretty feeble effort though if I do say so myself. Based on your admission of your motive for coming here, one can truly label you a troll.
I do understand your frustration though along with others in your little fiefdom as unlike Eaglelounge, it seems more difficult to "run off", silence or censor those you disagree with here. Nice try, kid.............but your missile missed it's target.
Better luck next time.
03-28-2016, 07:11 PM
#2070
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 10
Gee, yet ANOTHER new poster from Envoy who mimics his hero's inability to discuss issues and only hurl insults.
But in your case, since you freely admitted on Eaglelounge tonight that your only reason for starting an account here was to "make fun of eaglefly", it's of little surprise. A pretty feeble effort though if I do say so myself. Based on your admission of your motive for coming here, one can truly label you a troll.
I do understand your frustration though along with others in your little fiefdom as unlike Eaglelounge, it seems more difficult to "run off", silence or censor those you disagree with here. Nice try, kid.............but your missile missed it's target.
Better luck next time.
But in your case, since you freely admitted on Eaglelounge tonight that your only reason for starting an account here was to "make fun of eaglefly", it's of little surprise. A pretty feeble effort though if I do say so myself. Based on your admission of your motive for coming here, one can truly label you a troll.
I do understand your frustration though along with others in your little fiefdom as unlike Eaglelounge, it seems more difficult to "run off", silence or censor those you disagree with here. Nice try, kid.............but your missile missed it's target.
Better luck next time.
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