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Old 03-15-2016, 05:52 AM
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Does anyone else see the inevitable displacement coming for FOs? We all know company wants to hire into the 175. With 7 March new hires and this recent upgrade for CAs, how many new hires are needed to stay on track for training FOs in the 175?

If hiring lags behind the need for FOs then a vacancy will have to open up in the 175. I would assume they would come out of the 145 since we can park the 140s and give away 145s.

Wishful thinking?
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:42 AM
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What happens when the flow slows this summer and maybe, just maybe gets its numbers cut later in the year as desperation sets in when Envoy can't hire the numbers it needs.
What happens when the monkeys rise and take dominion over humanity? What happens when a huge meteor destroys the earth? Isn't the "What If" game fun! You just make up whatever crazy scenario you want without substance or validity.
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:48 AM
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What happens when the monkeys rise and take dominion over humanity? What happens when a huge meteor destroys the earth? Isn't the "What If" game fun! You just make up whatever crazy scenario you want without substance or validity.
Exactly! Just like you guys "projections" of 2.5/6.
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Old 03-15-2016, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
What happens when the monkeys rise and take dominion over humanity? What happens when a huge meteor destroys the earth? Isn't the "What If" game fun! You just make up whatever crazy scenario you want without substance or validity.
But his "what if" doesn't lack substance. He is not saying it is a guarantee, but it is certainly possible, and arguably likely.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:19 AM
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But his "what if" doesn't lack substance. He is not saying it is a guarantee, but it is certainly possible, and arguably likely.
envoy already, right now, as we speak, has airframes sitting idle due to lack of crews. Claiming that they will stop the flow at some future date in order to not have to park airplanes while they have already parked airplanes due to lack of crews does lack substance.

ag386 and his leader the Reverand like to point out past actions by AMR as indicators of future actions by AAG be only when it supports their agenda.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:20 AM
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Envoy recruitment in full effect. Pilots should show up to the interview, and interview recruitment. If they get ****y, just call Mesa right there in the interview, and say I would like to be in class next week, Mesa will hire you, and now you have the upper hand.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:23 AM
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Envoy recruitment in full effect. Pilots should show up to the interview, and interview recruitment. If they get ****y, just call Mesa right there in the interview, and say I would like to be in class next week, Mesa will hire you, and now you have the upper hand.
This is good advice but I might suggest Compass, SkyWest or Endeavor long before slumming it at Mesa.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:36 AM
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This is good advice but I might suggest Compass, SkyWest or Endeavor long before slumming it at Mesa.
Envoy is overstaffed right now. If airplanes are sitting idle, it's not for lack of pilots.

I would suggest Skywest, Compass or Endeavor before slumming it at Envoy or Mesa.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:46 AM
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Envoy is overstaffed right now.
Yup, and Saddam had weapons of Mass Destruction. We are "overstaffed" because their future staffing projections were wrong. They are thinking 3, 6, 12 and 24 months ahead.


If we are currently "overstaffed" why did they suddenly want to offer Retention/New Hire bonuses that they have been turning down for years? Why the sudden interest if we are "overstaff"? We will just call that "An Inconvenient Truth" to your campaign agenda.
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Old 03-15-2016, 07:51 AM
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Envoy is overstaffed right now. If airplanes are sitting idle, it's not for lack of pilots.

I would suggest Skywest, Compass or Endeavor before slumming it at Envoy or Mesa.
Everyone knows the smartest choice you can make right now is Allegiant! That company is soaring!

Soaring like the Hindenburg.

So nice to have someone with your caliber of judgment-who DOES NOT work at Envoy-come here daily and grace us with your wisdom. The tag-team you do with your hero-who I won't name-is really cute. Keep it up. Of course it's getting more and more difficult to spin negativity about Envoy, isn't it? That's why your tag team partner has been so silent these past few weeks.

Don't worry...it's going to get even more difficult for the two of you pretty soon. Just wait until the next batch of announcements are made...It'll be fun watching you guys attempt to spin it. So fun I'm just sitting back and letting you and your pals post all the drivel you can...It'll just make it all the more sweeter here pretty soon!
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