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Old 03-05-2016, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
On a more serious note, you may want to educate yourself on the history of American Eagle and the hard fought battle that forged the many competing "contractors" into a single carrier that preformed all of AA's regional flying.
You just said it yourself: it was never Simmons', or Flagship's, or Wings West's, or American Eagle's, or even Envoy.

It's American's flying.

Every AAG wholly owned carrier has exactly ONE customer that farms out work that actually belongs to the APA.

Until people wrap their heads around the implication of the above facts then you're going to keep running your head into the wall.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Eaglepilot84
I never really understood why the airplane you flies matter on the regional level, when they all pay the same. The important factor should be where the aircraft are based. If you're a DFW local then I can understand not wanting the CRJ, but beyond that they're all the same.
It matters a great deal.... Say I'm sitting on the bottom of the list on the 145 and all they do is hire into the 175 then I'll be getting ready reserve while people junior to me are holding lines.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 272922
Until people wrap their heads around the implication of the above facts then you're going to keep running your head into the wall.
We are not beating our heads. Didn't you see how quickly we excepted AAG's offer for retention and lateral transfers. We are ready to play the "stab the next guy in the back" game that PSA's ALPA Pilots were so ready to play. I am now PSA MINUS $1 'til the day I leave the regional industry.


Have fun trying to improve your contract after you were so quick to take the ****ty one you have now.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by FlameNSky
Have fun trying to improve your contract after you were so quick to take the ****ty one you have now.
I'm not worried about it. While I have some issues with the MEC's recent decision, market forces won't let our contract, nor the flow, stay where it is.

Without the LOA vote back in the day there wouldn't have been the leverage to say that.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:45 AM
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It's not official...but new hires will be going to the 175 very shortly. Our latest upgrade/vacancy bid had no 175 displacements for current pilots.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyvector
It's not official...but new hires will be going to the 175 very shortly. Our latest upgrade/vacancy bid had no 175 displacements for current pilots.
Should be 55 new FO positions opening on the 175 later this month.. Since we are adding that many more CA positions with no internal FO bid to fill those seats.

SJS new hires better act fast.. Lol
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by highflyer1980
Indeed.

I heard it was a mix of DFW and ORD and they will backfill. But that's just a rumor.

I am also hoping that, like last time, the 50 is an understatement. Something more like 75-80 upgrades? Only one way to find out.

Pretty darn close on the estimating. Do I win anything?
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Old 03-05-2016, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RyanP
Should be 55 new FO positions opening on the 175 later this month.. Since we are adding that many more CA positions with no internal FO bid to fill those seats.

SJS new hires better act fast.. Lol
It'll be like moths to a flame...that's for sure.
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Old 03-05-2016, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Lvlng4Spd
Nothing is ever your flying to claim unless Envoy decided to start its own airline. Maybe you angry birds should look into it and sail away in that fail boat. Nobody is super excited to get your airframes, but I for one have respect for the plan as it is. You can't be so greedy as to think you should have all the aircraft to yourself. Now what I really wanted personally was some more Q300s and some Q400s, but alas. no one can seem to embrace the turboprop anymore. Well, except Canada, and Europe, and...wait a minute...
Is it just me or was this really hard to read. Its like its just barely English. I had to read it a couple of times and ended up with an heavy accent in my head as I read along and then all I heard was Pedro.
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Old 03-05-2016, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by AnotherEagleGuy
Is it just me or was this really hard to read. Its like its just barely English. I had to read it a couple of times and ended up with an heavy accent in my head as I read along and then all I heard was Pedro.
it's just you
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