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Old 03-01-2016, 03:30 PM
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Voted? Who voted? You mean the MEC, because the pilots certainly had no say in this.

There are probably a few sour captains here who would want a chunk of money for whatever reason. I'm sure there are a few that felt they spent way too long as an FO and might deserve some. But one thing most everyone here agrees on is the fact that none of the company's feel-good numbers work if they don't have FO's in line to fill the vacated CA seats. Nice touch to add some dosh for recruits with 121 time as well.

It's about damn time.

Those alter-Eagles can say whatever they want, but these retention bonuses have been needed for a while. There's no point in offering retention bonuses to captains who are going to flow or get picked up by majors much more quickly than FOs. We need CA's to leave to make room for upgrades, not sit around collecting more cash.

*I'm a captain here, so it's not some FO griping about the guys blocking his way.
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
And honestly, it doesn't matter if it is true or not. Envoy pilots have been badmouthing PSA pilots for 2 years for half truths. Now the shoe is on the other foot.
How is it the same?? Not 1 concession given.
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ccjaxpilot
How is it the same?? Not 1 concession given.
Except for all the captains that deserve a bonus too, Endeavor pays everyone $23k a year. You guys got played.
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PDTpilotXX
He's 100% right. This time around ENY took the first offer and PDT / psa wanted more.

Probably the one time if all three had stuck together they all woulda gotten more. Oh well.

Don't believe me call your LEC rep. If they lie to you call your MECC.
PSA and PDT broke the unity. Everyone is by themselves they said...

Who cares now? CAs make livable wages, FOs don't. How does it feel now? Bad? Oh well, we've been 2 yrs with that same feeling.
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FourPutt
Except for all the captains that deserve a bonus too, Endeavor pays everyone $23k a year. You guys got played.
We had $0 before and $20,000 now without giving up anything. Is it Endeavor, no. Honestly FOs deserve more. The FO to CA pay ratio should the same as mainline...
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Old 03-01-2016, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ccjaxpilot
We had $0 before and $20,000 now without giving up anything. Is it Endeavor, no. Honestly FOs deserve more. The FO to CA pay ratio should the same as mainline...
Well if it isn't at least Endeavor standards you failed. Plus to not even be able to vote on it is another huge issue. Every compensation change should have everybody voting on it not just the MEC.
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Old 03-01-2016, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FourPutt
Well if it isn't at least Endeavor standards you failed. Plus to not even be able to vote on it is another huge issue. Every compensation change should have everybody voting on it not just the MEC.
We didn't vote when we got 200% OT premium last year. This is why you vote for reps.

You don't vote for every bill in Congress, your Senator does that for you.
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Old 03-01-2016, 04:04 PM
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Zero concessions.

$ in pocket.

Win.

Captains have the flow. Supposedly.

I'm not throwing my FO under the bus because of "me too".
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Old 03-01-2016, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by FourPutt
Well if it isn't at least Endeavor standards you failed. Plus to not even be able to vote on it is another huge issue. Every compensation change should have everybody voting on it not just the MEC.
I'm sure PSA will be offered the same thing just like with the cadet program. What will you have to say for yourself when PSA gets a carbon copy?
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Old 03-01-2016, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by AdiosMikeFox
Really? An argument about how to spell a diminutive for the male genitalia in an attempt to belittle each other?

This thread has really scraped bottom.
As one who has been a bottom feeder here since arriving, you should know.
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