Originally Posted by mr25cents

BEER MONEY! I'm guessing PSA and PDT are also getting the same thing?

Originally Posted by daOldMan

Nope. PDT and PSA MEC's voted it down. They want the retention bonus extended to ALL pilots on property. Only Envoy voted yes on the first thing that was offered.

Originally Posted by boiler07

Can you prove it?

Originally Posted by daOldMan

Nope. PDT and PSA MEC's voted it down. They want the retention bonus extended to ALL pilots on property. Only Envoy voted yes on the first thing that was offered.

Originally Posted by boiler07

Can you prove it?

Originally Posted by PilotCrusader

Why haven't you flowed Ric?
I'm too old to flow. My days are numbered.

As for your assertion: I'll help you out a little - I highly doubt the average envoy FO hired last year would have the ability to get hired at JetBlue. I just ran some numbers though.
Using APCs payscales - let's assume Pilot A does a 4 year career at envoy and leaves for JetBlue. He upgraded at envoy and received CA pay for year 4. He then went to JetBlue on the airbus and upgraded on the airbus, taking CA pay on year 4(yes JetBlue is upgrading at year 3 for the foreseeable future). Pilot A finishes his 25 year career at jetBlue(measured from the start of is employment at envoy).
Pilot B drinks the koolaid and does a 6 year stint in envoy prison. Same thing - upgrades on the E145 at year 4 pay. He then goes to AA at 6 years. He is an FO for 10 years(I think I'm being gracious here. Current upgrade is what 17?). He spends 8 years on a narrowbody and goes to a wide body for 2. He received year 11 pay as a narrowbody CA. His last 4 years of 25 are spent as a widebody CA.

Guess how much more pilot B made? $250k. What I didn't include is profit sharing. This year JetBlue paid 2 months worth. American paid none. That tends to almost even it out.

Lots can change in a 25 year career. Right now Pilot A is making $183/hr on year 4 CA pay getting pic, while Pilot B is making year 2 FO pay at AA $116/hr, after doing 2 extra years in envoy jail.

All this for the "promise" of a flow that is proven in the past to never work? A flow of 2.5 and 6 that you and I both know isn't realistic, IF it works.

Go for the SURE thing right NOW. Don't roll the dice on a "promise" from people that care about no one and have zero conscience.

Originally Posted by CLT Guy

I know that it has been floating around the crew room and Facebook group for more than a week. Details matched. If it is not true, then whoever started the rumor got really lucky with the exact same dollar amount and details.