PieInTheSky88

Would you leave Envoy for jetblue if you had been here for more then 5years? Don't want to start an argument, just want intelligent opinions. And yes IK all the flow promises and would be over at AA in potentially 3 years, my gut tells me to pack up shop and say adios to Envoy.

N927EV

It depends. Where do you live? Personally, id go to Jetblue if their bases worked for me. But, the commute for me would be miserable, so they're a no go for me. I have a friend there and loves it!

Aviatrx

Go!!! Don't look back!!! It is a better job then Envoy. Unless you want to pad your resume with PIC for potential economic collapse. In that case I would stay put. Who knows how long they will take to upgrade you, plus JB is a very junior pilot group with very little mandatory attrition. If your ambition is legacy, stay at Envoy

mr25cents

Yes, especially if you live in the East Coast. BOS and JFK are the junior bases for JetBlue. Orlando and Long Beach are senior. FLL is somewhere in the middle. If you get the 190 you'll get either BOS or JFK. 2nd yr FO pay at JetBlue = Captain pay at Envoy, or better.

AdiosMikeFox

The downside for JB is going to be a slow upgrade. It's s young average age over there, so it'll be s while before you move up. Overall, life as an FO there after a couple years will be better than even a CA here with 15 years or more.

Just plan accordingly. I know several captains here who called it quits and went to JB. They're all happy. Good luck with your choice.

PilotJ3

Well B6 commuter policy is great. 1 flight on their metal. You don't make it, not big deal, you're off the whole trip. Use the PTO to cover it.

N927EV

Yeah, but a 3+ hr commute each way for me doesn't sound like fun.

PilotJ3

Well...when you put it that way. Hahahaha

cr700

You absolutely do not want to do this. Even from an Envoy FO seat, this is a lateral move. You'll be stagnating your career and potentially get stuck at a LCC, maybe for life.

Consider it a step down if you are a CA. Cannot understand why any ENY Captain or even FO would be considering such a move. From an FO perspective, you already have a job at the largest major in the world just waiting on you.

PieInTheSky88

I would be leaving under the terms of staying at JetBlue until retirement. My concern with the flow is that of everyone who truly understands it. It can and for all purposes should slow down this summer with the final return of the furloughes. Right now I'm looking at 3-4 years however that will change after May. By how much no one knows. Let's say it adds 6 months. Now I'm at 3.5-4.5 years before flow, still not terrible but being a New englander that's a long time for a guaranteed commute by airplane appossed to driving to work at JetBlue(BOS-JFK JR bases) And at the end of the day going to JetBlue will not cut me off from a chance in the near future at either big 3, so all tho I will be leaving on the hope to stay until retirement - it's not an ultimatum. Obviously it is weighing on me and I do appreciate the advice offered thanks.

(Let's see how this vacancy bid turns out. That could be the final straw either way)