New Envoy Information
02-25-2016, 08:28 AM
#1351
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You know what numbers are not accurate? Your pilots paychecks. Every friend of mine still at Eagle gets their paycheck royally under payed ever month. They have to do their own auditing of their scheduled to get paid correctly. This is a fundamental HR FAIL on even the most basic of levels. Who would want to go to work if they aren't getting paid to do it?
This is symptomatic of what the company as a whole has turned into, a showboat of people who don't give a crap anymore doing a half-ass job. I can't get my friends over to the other side fast enough (not that its all daisies here either) because on top of that, Eagle is metering to a minimum in a overstaffed situation.
If you asked me two years ago if Eagle was the place to be, I would say yes. Now I can't recommend it anyone.
02-25-2016, 09:41 AM
#1352
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Unfortunately, I think all that announcement really solidifies is the confirmation that one of Envoy's chief present missions is simply to be the pinch-hitter for other WO's until they get up to speed better and thus will continue in that role. Long-term, this reality doesn't seem to do much for Envoy pilots and does that give MORE or LESS confidence to present and future Envoy pilots about Envoy ?
Although temporarily it might seem good, the job of helping other carriers to become stronger at your expense doesn't seem something to be positive about IMO. I suppose it depends on whether one considers short-term gratification or long-term stability a more important factor is deciding what is positive or not.
Although temporarily it might seem good, the job of helping other carriers to become stronger at your expense doesn't seem something to be positive about IMO. I suppose it depends on whether one considers short-term gratification or long-term stability a more important factor is deciding what is positive or not.
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02-25-2016, 10:15 AM
#1353
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It is good news. This should temporarily help schedules and upgrades. It also means that the quick upgrading scum are done making there moves. Time for AAG to pony up and show WO's the money and QOL they deserve. This will be the only way to attract/retain pilots. In the mean time their pilots are bleeding out to the LCC,ULCC's, and other places
Helping upgrades ? Are they ADDING aircraft ? Just how can keeping the same number of aircraft as now for longer improve the upgrade forecast that has already fallen by the wayside regarding 2016 projections ?
I guess we see two different realities. As for someone "ponying up", all I see are the same bandits periodically riding through town working up a #6 on you in the hope you stay instead of leave.
02-25-2016, 10:38 AM
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02-25-2016, 10:58 AM
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“Year to date, 68 Envoy pilots have advanced to become American Airlines pilots, Ric added. “For March and April, American is projecting the need for another 60 Envoy flow-through pilots, totaling more than 120 pilots advancing to American in just the first 120 days of 2016.”
02-25-2016, 11:00 AM
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02-25-2016, 11:08 AM
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Help schedules ? Are they ADDING aircraft ? Just how can keeping the same number of aircraft as now for longer improve schedules that are already among the worst in the industry from most reports ?
Helping upgrades ? Are they ADDING aircraft ? Just how can keeping the same number of aircraft as now for longer improve the upgrade forecast that has already fallen by the wayside regarding 2016 projections ?
I guess we see two different realities. As for someone "ponying up", all I see are the same bandits periodically riding through town working up a #6 on you in the hope you stay instead of leave.
Helping upgrades ? Are they ADDING aircraft ? Just how can keeping the same number of aircraft as now for longer improve the upgrade forecast that has already fallen by the wayside regarding 2016 projections ?
I guess we see two different realities. As for someone "ponying up", all I see are the same bandits periodically riding through town working up a #6 on you in the hope you stay instead of leave.
02-25-2016, 11:37 AM
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Until next year when it's not.
Hmm, losing 120 CA in next few months, adding only 50 replacements..... lost 68 CA's to AA + all other CA's that left to other carriers last few months.. added nowhere near that many replacements for those months either..
More Ric math.
Hmm, losing 120 CA in next few months, adding only 50 replacements..... lost 68 CA's to AA + all other CA's that left to other carriers last few months.. added nowhere near that many replacements for those months either..
More Ric math.
02-25-2016, 12:06 PM
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Help schedules ? Are they ADDING aircraft ? Just how can keeping the same number of aircraft as now for longer improve schedules that are already among the worst in the industry from most reports ?
Helping upgrades ? Are they ADDING aircraft ? Just how can keeping the same number of aircraft as now for longer improve the upgrade forecast that has already fallen by the wayside regarding 2016 projections ?
I guess we see two different realities. As for someone "ponying up", all I see are the same bandits periodically riding through town working up a #6 on you in the hope you stay instead of leave.
Helping upgrades ? Are they ADDING aircraft ? Just how can keeping the same number of aircraft as now for longer improve the upgrade forecast that has already fallen by the wayside regarding 2016 projections ?
I guess we see two different realities. As for someone "ponying up", all I see are the same bandits periodically riding through town working up a #6 on you in the hope you stay instead of leave.
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