buddies8

were their zippers up or down.

Smutter

Down......

Buzzlightyear

It was a briefing from Pedro therefore there is nothing to report.

nimslow

I have to laugh at CRJ's posts, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

During my interview at Simmons in the late 80's, they told us:

"You won't sit reserve, there is so much movement and hiring".
-We were on reserve for 18+ months.

"You will upgrade before 24 months, our FO pay scale only goes to five years, but no one has ever been an FO that long"
-My upgrade was over six years.


When they were selling the 16 year contract/flow deal they said:

"Cecil assured us that AA won't hire for the next two years, all the Eagle pilots will have seniority numbers/ be ready to flow before they start to hire"
-Within a year, AA was hiring 100+/month off the street, costing the flows thousands of numbers.

"Everyone at Eagle that wants to flow will be at AA in five years".
-Took most of us 10+ years to flow.

Don't make your decision where to work, on whats going on there right now, or what unicorns and rainbows management promises. Things will change, and most of the management promises will be empty.

AA is still better than Eagle, and a no brainer instead of staying there, but many of the problems you are having, mainline is having as well. Horrible trips, reduced average days off, few days off between trips, deadheads, pay problems, bad hotels, it's all going on here as well.

Two days off between three day trips, and three off between four days is pretty standard, at least on the 80, many trips are only commutable on one end. There are a couple of MIA bus lines that work 20 days next month, with one day off between trips. They can use a long layover as your 30 hours off.

Parker is working on creating the largest ULCC in the world. The money is better, but the QOL isn't what it used to be.

highflyer1980

I'm not expecting anything from these executives. It's obvious that Envoy is at the bottom of the totem pole when after the merger, DP said "Envoy will play a vital role in the regional network", when we are the ones who get the scraps of the schedules and doing someone else's flying that can't be staffed. It's all a politicians speech. They only say what we want to hear and then disappear back behind their desks, counting their bonus checks with the pipe dream of a happy workforce. Action speaks louder than words.

Iowa Farm Boy

Well it appears CR700 disappeared as stealthily as he arrived.

Perhaps it was a "hook in the water" to show upper mgt. that their beloved flow through isn't enough, as the union has been telling them.

adspilot

Any reason there is so much stuff in open time in DFW? Almost half the month is 200% pay for OT.

AdiosMikeFox

Gotta have the reserves fly something.

Buzzlightyear

Maybe the MEC officers hold show Isom/Hashimoto the results of the recent "which regional would you choose" poll here. Envoy had zero votes. Instructors aren't looking for a flow thru. Our airline has become a soft landing for retired military guys trying to stay current for 6 months until DAL/SWA calls and sucker cadet program guys that were indoctrinated while at flight school.

highflyer1980

As in 40 hours for the month. We're lucky. That's 10 hours more than what I have been getting on reserve.

I believe the union is giving out a complimentary hangman's noose. Provided for when your sanity is on the cusp of folding commuting the day prior and sitting at the airport all day for three days with a two day trip worth 4 hours.