nh2ri15

First off, you have no facts. Second off, if you knew anything about flying for a regional, you'd know that the type of plane you fly is pretty much everyone's lowest priority. It goes up, it comes down. Lots of people would actually prefer that 19 seat turboprop that takes skill to fly over a 175 that does everything for you. Third, you can't possibly be a pilot with that bad of math skills. It has not taken people 300 years to flow to American. But it might for you.


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TrinityDawn

In the latest bit of good news from the union, according to AAG's own announced fleet plan, they will be violating APA's scope clause by the end of 2016 unless changes are made to remove seats or regional aircraft.

Envoy can kiss those 175 options goodbye.

CLT Guy

Or, flying can be taken away from other places and given to Envoy. I think Envoy will get their 175's, but the frames will be cut from someone else.

Look at all of the new airplanes that PSA and Envoy are getting. Now look at how much new flying they are doing. Almost no new flying, but lots of new airplanes. Look for non-wholly owned companies to start to lose flying and WO companies to pick it up.

Aviatrx

Haha. Yeah, not sure why the FAA needs another test. I am interested to know if they intend to pay us for EFB training or if this will be another volunteer effort

eaglefly

Yawn. The only thing you cleaned was any doubt about your objectivity.

Hey Lucy, do us all a favor and show your math to support your claims. Specifically, show us Charlie Bucket's (May 2015 hire) monthly path to a December 2017 upgrade and for that matter (since it's still the representation), Charlie Brown's (January 2016 hire who just arrived to take a run at your football) Summer 2018 upgrade. Then, mold both into their <6 year flow to AA.

Nobody gives a damn about your feeble attempts to distract everyone into grumpy old eaglefly's past, they want supportable figures to validate the claims. So come on young lady............give the present and future Charlie's the info they care about.

BTW, snippet's won't do, detailed specifics are required.

Your move.

eaglefly

They'll have to be birds AAG owns.

RyanP

Hahahahaha.. Really?

Best work rules in the industry? Lol. Like what? Name them.. 50% DH pay for our 5 DH's per trip?

We have the worst schedules in the industry, reserve is attrocious and lasts 3-4 years, 1/3 of the pilot group on reserve, 4am preassigned RAP's, ,daily contract violations, punative extension refusals, Fatigue calls changed to Missed Assignements, lowest pay credit lines in the industry with min days off to boot. 11-12 day off non commutable lines worth 68 hours are the average now, and they can't ever even pay us correct for that. More lies and Promises for the schedules to improve by March, yet they are the worst BY FAR I have seen in a decade. I don't know of any place worse in the industry right now.

Same as some others, I tried to give them another chance for 2016. They lied again. Things are worse than ever and have been getting worse every month. Nothing even remotely good has happened since our name changed to Envoy. That is a fact for you.

AdiosMikeFox

Ok, so you are an ENY rep... Interesting.

As to your reply:

Additional flying: Slanted in ENY's favor - source? Proof? It's not the first time we've heard this. Right up there with better schedules just around the corner.

Upgrades: already multiple rumors that the next upgrade bid is small and has been pushed back. Why upgrade when we're still so fat on captains that are still here because we're metering, and because the flow will stall for the duration of the Letter T pilot's return? You also failed to address the training capacities required of both respective training centers to handle the upgrades, flow, and transitions in order to meet 2.5/6

Minimum flow: I know how the company is interpreting the 50%, but there is no 50% or 30, whichever the company feels like language. It's 50%, no more, no less. It was interesting how the company went with less than 50%, then took a week or two and said, "Oh yeah, forgot to mention it, we're metering. 'Cuz reasons..."

Hiring - Can't hire because of all the negativity online? Change the reasons for the negativity. It's been said a hundred times. Closed bases, lousy commutes, uncommutable lines, too few lines, too much reserve, draconian reserve changes, the list is almost unending. THIS is why hiring is difficult.

What's the reason for metering? Prove that staffing is required. Prove that metering is required. I'm starting to get suspicious that metering may be used as a justification to avoid true-up at the end of the year. Too big a backlog to push through training when combined with the flow halt due to the AA pilots return.

Unanswered: How will AA/ENY training be able to handle the massive movement that will allow 2.5/6 to happen, especially with the true-up? 2.5/6 will require every FO on the property as of May (thanks charliebucket.org for saving that useful but of info) last year to be upgraded by November of next year. Almost every captain on the property has to be gone by the same time. Dumping pilots in a pool because they got selected is not "flow". We could select everyone on the seniority list today and that wouldn't make them all "flow."

And lastly, I think there are many hundreds of pilots who are dealing with years of reserve, long commutes, awful lines, minimum days off and reduced pay due to low time lines that would disagree with you regarding your statement that ENY is such a great place to be.

Like I said. Last year I was on your side. This year ENY has failed. Prove to me and the prospective new hires out there why ENY's statements about upgrades, flow and bright future are real, because right now it's all hot air.

use2fly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQFxmAdyKcg

AdiosMikeFox

A quick check of your post history - I doubt my assessment of your position as a rep now. In your first couple of posts "Sit back, relax and let management work, they know what they're doing. Just like they did with the usair merger" or something to that effect.

YHGTBSM.