Envoy's New TA
12-08-2014, 09:03 AM
#21
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Keep selling PSA, the industry is taking care of itself. If they are getting so many pilots, why would they make a Kool Aid video?
12-08-2014, 09:12 AM
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The lower the cost of regional feed, the greater incentive management has to fight to loosen scope, which hurts us all in the end.
Good luck to the Eagle guys and gals.
12-08-2014, 09:17 AM
#23
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Can someone at Envoy provide some insight into your current work rules? I know you have no min day or rigs. What about cancellation pay? Is it trip or leg-by-leg? What rate are deadheads paid at? How about sick and vacation time? About about premium pay including junior mans and open time pick ups. How does trip trading and open work? What's the deal with with PBS? I thought you guys agreed to PBS during the ch.11 contract.
12-08-2014, 09:53 AM
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I am confused. Isn’t the survival game in the regional world virtually, the airline that can attract the new hires, is the airline that will survive?
What about this new contract would attract new hires to Envoy?
It essentially puts new hires on a B Scale (C Scale?) with the 12/4 that applies to new hires but does not apply to current pilots (Thank God). No growth. No upgrades. What am I missing that would make Envoy attractive to new hires?
And 10 years?
All the best to Envoy pilots.
What about this new contract would attract new hires to Envoy?
It essentially puts new hires on a B Scale (C Scale?) with the 12/4 that applies to new hires but does not apply to current pilots (Thank God). No growth. No upgrades. What am I missing that would make Envoy attractive to new hires?
And 10 years?
All the best to Envoy pilots.
12-08-2014, 10:22 AM
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I am confused. Isn’t the survival game in the regional world virtually, the airline that can attract the new hires, is the airline that will survive?
What about this new contract would attract new hires to Envoy?
It essentially puts new hires on a B Scale (C Scale?) with the 12/4 that applies to new hires but does not apply to current pilots (Thank God). No growth. No upgrades. What am I missing that would make Envoy attractive to new hires?
And 10 years?
All the best to Envoy pilots.
What about this new contract would attract new hires to Envoy?
It essentially puts new hires on a B Scale (C Scale?) with the 12/4 that applies to new hires but does not apply to current pilots (Thank God). No growth. No upgrades. What am I missing that would make Envoy attractive to new hires?
And 10 years?
All the best to Envoy pilots.
"Good Luck".
12-08-2014, 10:26 AM
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So you mean this is something all the sudden new?? This has gone on since the dawn of Regional flying. You act like just happened over the last 2 years.
12-08-2014, 10:34 AM
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12-08-2014, 11:27 AM
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12-08-2014, 01:54 PM
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Fleet plan is 40 E-175's scheduled to be delivered between Nov 2015 and Aug 2017 with options for 90 additional E-175's.
Effective with the delivery of the 1st EMB-175 (Nov 2015) aircraft Envoy "824" Pilots will occupy 50% or minimum of 30 slots in a given month at American Airline new hire classes.
Protected Pilots Envoy Pilots will occupy 35% or minimum of 25 slots in a given month at American Airline new hire classes.
Effective with the delivery of the 40th EMB-175 (by Aug 2017) aircraft Envoy pilots will occupy 50% or minimum of 30 slots in a given month at American Airline new hire classes.
Effective with the delivery of the 1st EMB-175 (Nov 2015) aircraft Envoy "824" Pilots will occupy 50% or minimum of 30 slots in a given month at American Airline new hire classes.
Protected Pilots Envoy Pilots will occupy 35% or minimum of 25 slots in a given month at American Airline new hire classes.
Effective with the delivery of the 40th EMB-175 (by Aug 2017) aircraft Envoy pilots will occupy 50% or minimum of 30 slots in a given month at American Airline new hire classes.
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