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Old 10-05-2014, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnGardner
Well.............?
Not in public brotha. Over a few beers though, and I'll entertain the story.

BTW, the envoy DFW FO rep can vouch for my story.
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Old 10-05-2014, 04:50 PM
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Not in public brotha. Over a few beers though, and I'll entertain the story.
It involved a goat, a donkey and JG's sister.
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Old 10-06-2014, 08:25 AM
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Was riding on an Airways 190 and the CA was an ex-Eagle F/O, spent 6 years in the right seat at Eagle and a year as an Airways F/O...

Goes to show you how screwed up the commuter world is. GTFO as soon as possible...waiting for a flow is just stupid when you look at how much they are going to hire. Those waiting over 4-5 years will be at the tail end of the hiring wave, which from my understanding it's going to take a decade to get through the list.
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That's why we have been saying you don't have to give up anything for a flow. Even better get hired outside of flow and you will be more senior than you would if you waited to flow.
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Originally Posted by Name User
Was riding on an Airways 190 and the CA was an ex-Eagle F/O, spent 6 years in the right seat at Eagle and a year as an Airways F/O...

Goes to show you how screwed up the commuter world is. GTFO as soon as possible...waiting for a flow is just stupid when you look at how much they are going to hire. Those waiting over 4-5 years will be at the tail end of the hiring wave, which from my understanding it's going to take a decade to get through the list.
What about the pilot shortage which is looming

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Old 10-06-2014, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by N927EV
For those of you looking for a corporate gig, I highly suggest flight safety. As an instructor or an SIC. Excellent way to get into corporate and certain FSIs and will fully type you.
Not necessarily. After six years had great corporate contacts and always made the short list after the interview - best was when it got down to two of us for a Fortune 20 position. Neck and neck except for recency of experience. And that's what killed it for me in subsequent interviews and applications. I'm typed in the Challenger 604 and Gulfstream IV.

Called all my contacts when they had a position and it was, "We'd love to have you but you're just not competitive on the recency issue." (I also have other things I can offer the corporate departments - published safety author, SMS expertise, speaker at NBAA events, courseware developer, etc.). The recency is the kiss of death. Going there in search of a corporate gig may not work as well as one thinks. It happens but it's not the norm for instructors. I had to go back to the regionals for four months to get picked up by B6.

As a side note, FS is requiring a two year contract after becoming a fully qualified instructor. And if you're just going to bail on that Berkshire Hathaway is flush with staff lawyers. I was also a program manager so I can speak accurately about those that left in a hurry.
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Old 10-06-2014, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnGardner
BMW = strike one

M3 = small BMW = strike two

M3 = expensive small BMW = strike three

Go Benz, or go home.
please...............

Im about to put in an order for an M4...........its amazing, you cant deny it
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Old 10-06-2014, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SkylineAviation
Let me get this right...

We have Gardner, RJ & Eaglefly discussing the merits and qualities of luxury cars on an Envoy forum. The same one's who have been or are senior captains making $100+k and/or flowed to AA while Envoy just received another devastating blow with yet another base closure all while there are hundreds of guys to get displaced and over a thousand FO's who are having a hard time keeping their heads above water.

Way to represent yourselves...even if you are just joking.

Uh, yeah because every pilot who started here went right to senior ca pay? I don't get it. Everyone started as an FO. So yes they do know what the pay is like?
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Old 10-06-2014, 04:11 PM
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Uh, yeah because every pilot who started here went right to senior ca pay? I don't get it. Everyone started as an FO. So yes they do know what the pay is like?
What? Who said they went to senior ca pay?

Did I mention someone shouldn't buy a car or whatever they want....I actually said just that a few posts later. It was the poor tact in some of their posts I was pointing out.
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Old 10-06-2014, 06:17 PM
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It involved a goat, a donkey and JG's sister.
It involved a 300+ lb girl, performing a self pleasure show on the hood of a Honda Civic, and the subsequent crunching of said hood, some ****ed off locals, and a long drunken walk / run / stumble back to the hotel (which included tripping over every hole in the ground on the way) at 0100 on a Saturday night / Sunday morning. I may or may not have only been a spectator of this horrible show.

Legal Disclaimer: I, nor my airline, or it's employees would ever condone such activity. My comments, stories and / or opinions do not represent the views or actions of my employer or anyone associated with it. We do not condone partaking in such activity.. However, some people who may or may not be employed at my airline, May have or may have not witnessed such an act of ridiculousness at the Euless Yacht Club. Which happens to be a fine establishment.
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