FlyJD

Alot to say, other than he's told me about several other wash out rates. Still trying. . .

BigZ

huh? Trust me, its been done

JohnBurke

What I was getting at was the counseling regarding your current situation; Have you gone to Emerald Coast with your present situation to discuss the best way to address it (I don't care for the term "spin it"), while forming a plan going forward? Was your Emerald Coast counseling prior to this last round of training failures and resignation, or before? Any counseling from before is nice, but what you definitely need is one-on-one guidance now, specific to your situation.

No, it certainly is not. There's a lot of wisdom in what the steward told him, given the circumstance. It's time to take that counsel to heart.

itsmytime

im with you. How is this even possible? Especially after two successful initials, and 3 years at ExpressJet doing recurrents. Something’s not adding up.

FlyJD

Watch out! JohnBurke is gonna start tossing wrenches at you all, as it'll be on like DODGEBALL here!! lol

FlyJD

Like JohnBurke said, not adding adequate amount of rudder in flight during SE is student pilot learning, not airline qualification learning, and that's an intolerable mistake. I mean it was not the entire duration of flight. More like somewhere around 2-3 mins in cruise. I caught it as we were entering the phase of the approach "Whoops!! My mistake!" and corrected it. But it was too late. LCA wrote it down. And i'm the complete idiot, now that even JohnBurke here is leading the criticisms here.

FlyJD

Ok. . . . here's my expanding. . . JohnBurke. . . enough. . . Please!!!


Anyways . . . on MV I was a bit rusty on the SE as I haven't done it in a while. And was rusty on setting RNAV on the FMS for visual approaches (Visual. . . not an instrument approach). Ran out of time on MV. Next LCA went over techniques with me on the chalk board, really helpful techniques. Finished the MV in just 20 mins. Seat filler was an instructor as my CA called out sick. Even he complimented me "great job, you know what your doing!".

Then KV. . . weak on hydraulics, said some wrong acronyms (IDG, EDP, forgot what PACKS stood for, the hose lines in the landing gears, etc). Unsatisfactory. Retook and passed.

LOE. . . during SE (yes . . . SE is on both MV & LOE) I left the airplane uncoordinated for about 2-3 minutes in cruise. Caught it when entering the approach phase and realized "Whoops! my mistake" and corrected it. And our Vref was 150 kts to compensate SE approach and I should have idled the power sooner during flare, as I mainly flew the usual 140-130 kts Vref approach. So I floated and landed past the touch down zone. LCA gave me second attempt. I corrected all the errors but then made a different mistake. I was above the GS on the ILS. So I used FPA to increase rate of descent. I eventually caught it and landed in the touch down zone safely. However I brought us outside the stabilized approach criteria. Exceeded the maximum 1000FPM descent rate and I made the wrong decision and should have elected to "Go-Around" and try the approach again. LOE was Unsat right there. LCA made a recommendation to provide additional training to fix the gaps but the training review board denied it. So . . that was the end of it.

JohnBurke

In two subsequent posts, twenty minutes apart, you attempt to call me out for attacking you, then turn around and agree with me, and in a concurrent thread in another forum here, where your story is playing out, you accuse me once more. This, in the space of a few minutes. I mentioned in the other thread that this sounds bipolar.

You need to understand, despite your paranoia and cornered-cat behavior, the posts that have been made, every one in response to YOUR comments, have all been made in your best interest.

You need to understand that your situation isn't particularly isolated or unique. I've seen your case before. Three such cases posting nearly simultaneously on this web site right now. All different responses: yours is the most defensive and scattered, and it's perplexing. You jump back and forth between agreeing, defending, denying, excusing, and full circle again. There is no character arc of change, which is requireid for a story. A story has direction; yours, at the moment, is more like the perimeter of an amoeba. You may not understand this.

Again, you need to understand that your situation is not a singular anomaly, an outlier that is so foreign as to be incomprehensible. Most of us who have been in the industry for very long have seen it. I've represented individuals nearly in the same boat as you; the ones who were successful were quick to own their failures, embrace the changes, seek the assistance they needed, and move forward. You can cry over spilt milk all day long. You can slap down the counsel you've been given, as you continue to do. This doesn't hurt me. It doesn't hurt anyone else here. It is to your detriment, and yours alone. Some of us have done this for a long time now. Many decades. We've seen failures happen. Many of us have had our own. Career setbacks occur, sometimes of our own making, sometimes entirely out of our control (mergers, bankruptcies, regulatory changes, economic downturns, yada, yada), yet we roll with them, adjust, and re-evaluate our game plan going forward. Many of us have been fired, furloughed, laid off, shown up to a locked hangar; you name it. The bottom line is that to find yourself in a situation in which your progress in one particular direction is limited, is not the end of the trail. You have opportunities and a future, but it depends entirely on you.

FlyJD

Maybe ExpressJet was just too good to be true. Maybe they were cutting everybody way too much slack?? I'm pretty sure I made mistakes during recurrent MV and LOE and maybe the satisfactory were not well deserved. We're dangerous at ExpressJet? Or maybe a new era raised in me at Republic and I turned into somebody totally different? I don't know. . . . JohnBurke here maybe has the answers.

FlyJD

Ok . . . .this right here. . . . you probably won't believe me. . . but yeah. . .that's true. . . I really do agree with most of that. . . I really do. Not all of it though!! Regarding about the descriptions of my mistake at Republic's recurrent, you described me as an idiot!!! But let me say this . . . . jumping back to ExpressJet initial training. . . My sim partner during initial at ExpressJet, he deserved to be let go'd for how the way he kept over reacting like he was mad at the world. The time he got paired up with me as my study partner, that was actually his second attempt in the entire initial training curriculum, over 20 sim sessions, and yet I witnessed a couple red screens from him. So his example is a lot higher than my issues here. I had to continue alone without a study partner. But now back to the topic of Republic. Your comments regarding the mistakes I made: "That's student pilot level learning", well . . . what would you have said to my class mates at Republic with previous years flying multiengine turbines who made worse mistakes (maybe not worse than me, just my guess) where during V1 cut they did not use proper rudder placement and red screened after stalling and crashing. Another guy forgot to reduce rudder on landing and side loaded the ******* out of the landing. I saw it when I was invited to sit inside the full motion simulator as an observer to learn and take notes. What would you have said to them?? Seriously! You're a check airman. . . aren't you??