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Old 11-18-2019, 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rondonq1
I would not consider coming to the envoy. The managment very bad and airline is same as mesa. Flow ia big lie.
I'd say this probably answers all your questions right here 😂. I too will begin referring to the company as "the envoy"
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BIueSideUp
I'd say this probably answers all your questions right here 😂. I too will begin referring to the company as "the envoy"
Geez, that’s kinda funny😂

“The Envoy” giveth and the Envoy taketh away... May the gods smile upon you and not smite you.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:57 AM
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This guy did a really good write up of our initial training:

https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/comm...ining_and_ioe/
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Old 11-18-2019, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BIueSideUp
I'd say this probably answers all your questions right here . I too will begin referring to the company as "the envoy"


That’s hilarious, I will refer the company as the envoy as well


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Originally Posted by BIueSideUp
I'd say this probably answers all your questions right here 😂. I too will begin referring to the company as "the envoy"
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Originally Posted by rondonq1
I would not consider coming to the envoy. The managment very bad and airline is same as mesa. Flow ia big lie.
Hulas, is that you?
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Old 11-21-2019, 12:52 PM
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I will disagree that the training at the Envoy is thorough. The DECs who have seen training at other places, and the old guys generally agree that training is not thorough. The expectation seems to be that you will be self taught through CBTs and reading the manuals. Without context provided by an experienced instructor or classmate, it is easy to miss something important on page 264 of the FM-1, or slide 48 on the 5th CBT you are doing for the day.

The training is adequate if you are good at self study to get through the check ride. You might find things confusing or over complicated that experienced could make crystal clear in a couple minutes.
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Old 11-22-2019, 05:37 AM
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Gotta love the thought that self-taught CBTs equate to "thorough training". This is the reason senior captains have issues flying with us noobs. I guess "we don't know what we don't know." is a very valid statement.

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Gotta love the thought that self-taught CBTs equate to "thorough training". This is the reason senior captains have issues flying with us noobs. I guess "we don't know what we don't know." is a very valid statement.

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