Captian Open

Be real. No one gets written up for their uniform. I had an FO last week that didn’t even wear a belt. When our planes look like they’ve been thru a hail storm how can they expect us to live up to a Grade A standard. Wear what you want.

uavking

That was something you could do with the optional purchase Twin Hill zip sweater. It was designed to be worn that way (per the Twin Hill collection look book) and was allowed as such at mainline. Down here it existed in a gray area. Since we still don't have a clear uniform standard, you'll see it on those who bought it when it was available.

If folks look at the M&H website, you will find demo uniform pictures that suggest that their pullover and cardigan options are intended to be worn under the blazer as a layering piece. This effectively takes us back to the pre-Twin Hill sweater option as you see in the FM-1. For those coming from the Army, you will find that the GI cardigan is a near match for the M&H, albeit in a higher quality English wool.

If folks want to walk around the concourse in a commando sweater, I hear that SkyBest is hiring with longevity.

ViperCrosswind

[QUOTE=uavking;2904998]That was something you could do with the optional purchase Twin Hill zip sweater. It was designed to be worn that way (per the Twin Hill collection look book) and was allowed as such at mainline. Down here it existed in a gray area. Since we still don't have a clear uniform standard, you'll see it on those who bought it when it was available.

Interesting! The company language on uniforms is ... lacking. Especially with the forced switch to a new supplier that provides so little options.

Did mainline/APA have any real say in this uniform? What is their policy in sweaters and non MH overcoats/trench,pea coats?

As long as we look professional does anyone really care?

uavking

There are pages dedicated to the Twin Hill/M&H uniform debacle. It can be assumed, however, that AAG intent is to present a consistent brand and the uniform is part of that.

That said, is this the Army and is your chief pilot going to appear out of nowhere like a First Sergeant and hem you up? Probably not.

AV8R72

Is the soft shell jacket sold at Crew Outfitters acceptable? I’ve seen a couple folks with it. It looks similar to the one from A Cut Above on page 1

NoValueAviator

M&H is an emergency uniform hammered through to disarm professional plaintiffs who got hired as mainline flight attendants. Of course it’s trash.

now they get Land’s End and we’re stuck with it.

Cyio

I still have my old twin hill pants with a cut above shirts and still on occasion use the zip up sweater. I have never been approached about my uniform and if the day comes that i am, I will switch. I mean come on, take one look at the 140's coming out of the desert and tell me that they don't look like something straight out of a scrap heap. I would think passengers would feel much more uneasy about that then me using a zip up sweater.

Until then, I see no reason to wear those uncomfortable coats. In response to the mainline, I have seen, albeit rarely, an AA captain using the sweater.

okayestpilot

This ^^^^^^ Wear what you want. Look professional and keep it clean. Who cares if its an approved piece or not. Comfort above all else. Y'all overthink it.

jake cutter

And don’t be the guy who wears the blazer over the sweater.

uavking

Layering is key to staying warm, and that is precisely why thin sweaters work so well under suiting. With a sweater, blazer, gloves, and a watch cap you are prepared for most anything short of hard rain or Fargo cold during a winter walk around if you don’t want to carry the town coat. Now the jumper/pullover vs cardigan debate is eternal, and a matter of personal choice, but there is a reason why sweaters make an appearance in business suiting during the winter. Heck, ask a vet what he thought of his GI sweater or field jacket liner under a BDU top during the winter and odds are he’ll say that it was the best thing going.

Don’t be the guy who wears a uniform item as it was intended, eh? Brilliant. See: https://mandhuniforms.com/store/asse...UniLSFBK.4.jpg

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