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Old 10-03-2019, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Chato
So what happens if you fail training? Don't they just show you the door? I thought most of those xxx are on some kind of military leave, FMLA etc
It's all written in the contract. Read it.
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Old 10-03-2019, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dera
It's all written in the contract. Read it.
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Inactive. Usually people who failed training, or dropped mil orders during indoc.
Dude...it's a lot more than guys who failed out of training or that are on military orders. A much more common explanation that your nonsense is it could be guys that are in MGMT, it could be guys that are now in the schoolhouse, it could be guys that now work in Recruiting, it could be guys that are SA, it could be guys that are out on Sick Leave/FMLA, it could be guys that are full time MEC Officers, etc.
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Old 10-03-2019, 06:57 PM
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Dude...it's a lot more than guys who failed out of training or that are on military orders. A much more common explanation that your nonsense is it could be guys that are in MGMT, it could be guys that are now in the schoolhouse, it could be guys that now work in Recruiting, it could be guys that are SA, it could be guys that are out on Sick Leave/FMLA, it could be guys that are full time MEC Officers, etc.
Dera is just salty because he can’t come to the defense of the company on this latest issue. Everything we have all been saying for over a year about how this company will screw you is coming true.

Dera always touted the contract and how the company really isn’t as bad as we all said. Here we sit with them actively violating the contract with nothing but an “oops, sorry for the misunderstanding”. I wonder if crew scheduling or the cpo would take that as an excuse for missing an assignment? “Oops I misunderstood the contract section regarding show times, sorry”.
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Old 10-03-2019, 07:30 PM
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Dera is just salty because he can’t come to the defense of the company on this latest issue. Everything we have all been saying for over a year about how this company will screw you is coming true.

Dera always touted the contract and how the company really isn’t as bad as we all said. Here we sit with them actively violating the contract with nothing but an “oops, sorry for the misunderstanding”. I wonder if crew scheduling or the cpo would take that as an excuse for missing an assignment? “Oops I misunderstood the contract section regarding show times, sorry”.
And on the last pay day, Dera tried to come to the Company's defense post haste (as usual) and proclaim that they'd paid the pilot group in full for retro pay when in fact they hadn't. He got awfully quiet when it was pointed out that they hadn't. He's been an effin' know it all since he showed up on property and a MGMT apologist since the beginning.
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Old 10-04-2019, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bigtime209
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Dude...it's a lot more than guys who failed out of training or that are on military orders. A much more common explanation that your nonsense is it could be guys that are in MGMT, it could be guys that are now in the schoolhouse, it could be guys that now work in Recruiting, it could be guys that are SA, it could be guys that are out on Sick Leave/FMLA, it could be guys that are full time MEC Officers, etc.
That wasn't meant to be an exhaustive list obviously.
The guys in the schoolhouse are AETC.
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Old 10-04-2019, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dera
It's all written in the contract. Read it.
I am pretty positive you wouldn't give this type of answer to someone you’re sitting in the cockpit with, so why do it online? But thanks man, I’ll make sure to look that up.
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Old 10-04-2019, 08:53 AM
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I am pretty positive you wouldn't give this type of answer to someone you’re sitting in the cockpit with, so why do it online? But thanks man, I’ll make sure to look that up.
Yeah really no point in replying. He's also asked multiple contract questions on FB so idk why he has the attitude about it.

Also agree with what the others have said about him being salty for being wrong about the company being late on pay. He was one of the first to post about it here and on FB saying how they paid us out in full without fully checking the numbers. While also talking down people saying "Wait until September 30 to complain" and "This post (about back pay) aged well". And then went silent on it. For someone 9 months on property he really has quite the ego.

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Old 10-04-2019, 09:06 AM
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Gotta keep the facade up so he can tell Mommy and Daddy he works at a good regional?
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:04 AM
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Also agree with what the others have said about him being salty for being wrong about the company being late on pay. He was one of the first to post about it here and on FB saying how they paid us out in full without fully checking the numbers. While also talking down people saying "Wait until September 30 to complain" and "This post (about back pay) aged well". And then went silent on it. For someone 9 months on property he really has quite the ego.
I still believe my pay was correct. If they are paying more, I'm keeping my mouth shut and not going to complain. My backpay was within a reasonable error margin of what I expected to get. There are others who believe their pay was correct as well, and some who believe they were actually overpaid. Clearly these people were in the minority, but they were the first ones I talked to and that's why I believed the pay was correct for most. My mistake.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:48 AM
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I still believe my pay was correct. If they are paying more, I'm keeping my mouth shut and not going to complain. My backpay was within a reasonable error margin of what I expected to get. There are others who believe their pay was correct as well, and some who believe they were actually overpaid. Clearly these people were in the minority, but they were the first ones I talked to and that's why I believed the pay was correct for most. My mistake.
Did you get a complete retro pay or a partial pay iaw the posted memo? The later =/= correct
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